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I noticed about two weeks ago that Schmendrik had what looked like bruises on his face. I did more wc's than normal these last two weeks, and the bruises went away. At least they did for about a day. Now he has symmetrical bruises in his cheeks.

I thought at first that he may have ran into the glass during the night or something. However, today I noticed that he had a LOT more wen on his face where he had the previous bruises, and the current ones. Had anyone else ever experienced anything along those lines?

I know that these are not the best shots, sorry. The first two are the previous bruising.

 

He's still acting completely normal, haven't had to treat him with anything, or quarantine or anything. Still eats, plays, etc. I don't know if I've posted in the wrong section, if so, I'm sorry! 74a0f3adb1e25b99ca97ba7209c93ff2.jpg0709fbc581605455cb52852a38dee868.jpga3123e18db8658e0fc448a2a0bdc7018.jpg9e1c22ca6b8105ad3457f9d8756bf80c.jpg

 

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I noticed about two weeks ago that Schmendrik had what looked like bruises on his face. I did more wc's than normal these last two weeks, and the bruises went away. At least they did for about a day. Now he has symmetrical bruises in his cheeks.
I thought at first that he may have ran into the glass during the night or something. However, today I noticed that he had a LOT more wen on his face where he had the previous bruises, and the current ones. Had anyone else ever experienced anything along those lines?
I know that these are not the best shots, sorry. The first two are the previous bruising.
 
He's still acting completely normal, haven't had to treat him with anything, or quarantine or anything. Still eats, plays, etc. I don't know if I've posted in the wrong section, if so, I'm sorry! 74a0f3adb1e25b99ca97ba7209c93ff2.jpg0709fbc581605455cb52852a38dee868.jpga3123e18db8658e0fc448a2a0bdc7018.jpg9e1c22ca6b8105ad3457f9d8756bf80c.jpg
 
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Hello there, I' m not sure if I can share the same experience but still I had a similar situation. For the last year my male oranda had " suffered" from that wen overgrowth and every 3th month his right side of the wen developed some kind of bruises, becoming inner blood clots. After treating with bactopur direct they usually disappear and were replaced from new wen mass. The new mass was whitish and wasn't looking healthy as the other part of his head. After 2-3 months the problem appeared again. I have spoken with ichthyologist about the problem and he only told me that this overgrowing is unusual genetical problem with that precise fish, problem with the metabolism so I should cut the proteins and feed lightly fresh veggies. Although I have managed the situation for more than a year, last month the bruise became a huge hole in the wen with a huge blood clot and didnt disappear from the treatment. Bacterias were doing their best to spoil all my efforts of fighting the sickness. After a massive water change I only found that in the morning the front side of the wen and the cheeks of my fish are so swollen ( as if there was an allergic reaction) and my oranda wasnt able to see. The wen had grown ( swollen) so much through the night it was awful. The fish was more than 4 years old, 220 grams weight and about 25 cm long with the tail. I can assure u that I was giving my best for the tank and the two fishes in it and was checking all the parameters daily. Still a mystery for me what was causing the problem. 53dd40cbf18ef0c0789c00a14c454804.jpg


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D: I hope that's not what's wrong with Schmenny! Did your problem ever resolve?

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I hope its not like mine too, no it didnt resolve. Hope your case is just bacterial infection , lets see what the smart people here would say. Wishing u and your fish all the best, cuz my heart is still broken u know.


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I thought it was bacterial, and it still may be, however it looks like it really could just be bruising from fast growth. He had a small amount of wen, and now has moderate, and it happened almost overnight. I will try to get some more close up photos. You can see where the vessels are burst.

 

Thanks for the good wishes and thoughts. I'm sorry your heart is still heavy.

 

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Hope Schmenny feels better soon.

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Please copy & paste fill the following form and fill it out to the best of your ability when requesting help for Goldfish Problems: 

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank)
    • * Nitrate level(Tank)
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
      • * Water temperature?
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
      • * How often do you change the water and how much?
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
  • * Any medications added to the tank?
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

 

 

 

 

 

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@koko I wasn't really asking for a diagnosis, just your guys opinions. Schmenny is actually almost fully recovered and improving everyday. ^_^ That's why I said I wasn't sure if I posted this in the right spot. Just kinda curious what your guys' thoughts were on it, or what you thought it looked like, etc.

 

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level 0
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0 
    • * Nitrate level(Tank) 0
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap) 0
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap) 0
    • * Nitrate level(Tap) 0
    • * Ph Level, Tank 7.4
    • * Ph Level, Tap 7.4
    • Other Required Info:
      • * API drops
      • * 74F
      • * 36G
      • * Fluval Aquaclear 50
      • * 90% WC every 5 days
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?
    - yesterday
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size?
    -2 (3in? 4?)
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners?
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often?
    -soilent green, hikari gold
  • * Any new fish added to the tank?
    -no
  • * Any medications added to the tank?-
    no
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
     bruises as shown in photo...
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?
    -no

 

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24 minutes ago, Anorea said:

 I wasn't really asking for a diagnosis, just your guys opinions. Schmenny is actually almost fully recovered and improving everyday. ^_^ That's why I said I wasn't sure if I posted this in the right spot. Just kinda curious what your guys' thoughts were on it, or what you thought it looked like, etc.

I know but sometimes just looking at that gives us ideas of what might be wrong :)

One thing I would like to suggest. If your feeding Gel food I would dump your HOB water after you do or the next day. That stuff can get into  your filter and make a mess of things. :o 

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1 hour ago, koko said:

I know but sometimes just looking at that gives us ideas of what might be wrong :)

One thing I would like to suggest. If your feeding Gel food I would dump your HOB water after you do or the next day. That stuff can get into  your filter and make a mess of things. :o 

:D That's true!
So do you think it was bruising? I don't knowwwww kokoooooooooooooo

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2 hours ago, Anorea said:

:D That's true!
So do you think it was bruising? I don't knowwwww kokoooooooooooooo

If it was me I wouldn't feed the Gel food and I would make sure I clean out the water in the Hob every water change. It might be bruising but since it looks red Im wondering if there is an underlying bacterial infection. 

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5 hours ago, koko said:

If it was me I wouldn't feed the Gel food and I would make sure I clean out the water in the Hob every water change. It might be bruising but since it looks red Im wondering if there is an underlying bacterial infection. 

That's what I was worried about, (bac infection) however I usually do dump out the water in my hob every time.
Iunno, but today he had hardly any marks on him. :D Thanks!

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