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Hey i need help!! 

 

One of my butterflies seems to be very lazy. I have had him for a little while now (6-8months) and he/she has always been like this, but the last few weeks its got worse. Im not sure what i can do.

It seems to either sit on the bottom or hang out at the top long periods of time. He/she isn't breathing at an unusual rate or gasping at the surface. The other fish are completely normal and don't this. At first i thought maybe it was because of the tail shape these fish have. Because of the shape it must take more effort to swim then my Orandas, causing the fish to have rest periods. But now I'm thinking its not that at all. Its behaving like its bored :/ But i think its something medical now.

 

There don't seem to be any other issues. no fungus, no loss of appetite or rapid breathing. 

 

I have filled out the question sheet below. 

Thankyou

 

 

  • Test Results for the Following:
    • * Ammonia Level(Tank) 0
    • * Nitrite Level(Tank) 0
    • * Nitrate level(Tank) 0
    • * Ammonia Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrite Level(Tap)
    • * Nitrate level(Tap)
    • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) 7.5
    • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
    • Other Required Info:
      • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? Nutrafin drop test kit
      • * Water temperature? 
      • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 65 gallons and running about 1 year
      • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
      • * How often do you change the water and how much? 2* of 80% a week
  • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? 1 day ago
  • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 5 medium size.
  • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Api stress coat
  • * What do you feed your fish and how often? NLS thera A, Hikari lion head mixed together. once in the morning then either veg or blood worms in the eve.
  • * Any new fish added to the tank? no
  • * Any medications added to the tank? no
  • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Waterlife parasite treatment
  • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? No
  • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? bottom sitting and hanging at the surface.

 

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Could we please have the tap parameters, as well as video of the behavior? Also, what is the temperature of the water?

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Hope he feels better.

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Can I have a full shot of this tank please?

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Have you been using "Api stress coat" all the time? or is that something new?

Do you have prime or Amquel?

Reason I ask is that "Api stress coat" has AloeVera in it, and if used to much it can irritate the fish's gills.. I dont like that stuff much... Its okay in short term.

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Have you been using "Api stress coat" all the time? or is that something new?

Do you have prime or Amquel?

Reason I ask is that "Api stress coat" has AloeVera in it, and if used to much it can irritate the fish's gills.. I dont like that stuff much... Its okay in short term.

 

I have been using stress coat for a few months now. I don't have prime but i can get hold of it from the internet. could this be whats causing the bottom sitting periods? But its only the one fish? :wacko:

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Hope he/she feels better soon! I have a fish that seems to tire very quickly, but I'm talking ridiculously long fins.

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Have you been using "Api stress coat" all the time? or is that something new?

Do you have prime or Amquel?

Reason I ask is that "Api stress coat" has AloeVera in it, and if used to much it can irritate the fish's gills.. I dont like that stuff much... Its okay in short term.

 

I have been using stress coat for a few months now. I don't have prime but i can get hold of it from the internet. could this be whats causing the bottom sitting periods? But its only the one fish? :wacko:

Well that the first place I would go for now hun... Some fish are more sensitive than others, just like Humans hun...

I would order Prime...

If you can look in the gills and tell me the color of them or if you can a photo :)

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Have you been using "Api stress coat" all the time? or is that something new?

Do you have prime or Amquel?

Reason I ask is that "Api stress coat" has AloeVera in it, and if used to much it can irritate the fish's gills.. I dont like that stuff much... Its okay in short term.

I have been using stress coat for a few months now. I don't have prime but i can get hold of it from the internet. could this be whats causing the bottom sitting periods? But its only the one fish? :wacko:

Well that the first place I would go for now hun... Some fish are more sensitive than others, just like Humans hun...

I would order Prime...

If you can look in the gills and tell me the color of them or if you can a photo :)

Thanks for helping me ????

I have just orderd prime off amazon. It won't be here for about a week though ????

Is there anything I can do in the mean time to help?

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Have you been using "Api stress coat" all the time? or is that something new?

Do you have prime or Amquel?

Reason I ask is that "Api stress coat" has AloeVera in it, and if used to much it can irritate the fish's gills.. I dont like that stuff much... Its okay in short term.

I have been using stress coat for a few months now. I don't have prime but i can get hold of it from the internet. could this be whats causing the bottom sitting periods? But its only the one fish? :wacko:

Well that the first place I would go for now hun... Some fish are more sensitive than others, just like Humans hun...

I would order Prime...

If you can look in the gills and tell me the color of them or if you can a photo :)

Thanks for helping me ????

I have just orderd prime off amazon. It won't be here for about a week though ????

Is there anything I can do in the mean time to help?

Ok I noticed that he is now gasping at the surfsce!!!!! I don't no what todo I can't get hold of any other water conditioner until 2moro?

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Have you been using "Api stress coat" all the time? or is that something new?

Do you have prime or Amquel?

Reason I ask is that "Api stress coat" has AloeVera in it, and if used to much it can irritate the fish's gills.. I dont like that stuff much... Its okay in short term.

I have been using stress coat for a few months now. I don't have prime but i can get hold of it from the internet. could this be whats causing the bottom sitting periods? But its only the one fish? :wacko:

Well that the first place I would go for now hun... Some fish are more sensitive than others, just like Humans hun...

I would order Prime...

If you can look in the gills and tell me the color of them or if you can a photo :)

Thanks for helping me

I have just orderd prime off amazon. It won't be here for about a week though

Is there anything I can do in the mean time to help?

Ok I noticed that he is now gasping at the surfsce!!!!! I don't no what todo I can't get hold of any other water conditioner until 2moro?

Ok do we have a QT tank hun? You said your tap has slight Nitrites in there right? Do you have Aquatic salt? Also a Free filter for the QT tank?

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Have you been using "Api stress coat" all the time? or is that something new?

Do you have prime or Amquel?

Reason I ask is that "Api stress coat" has AloeVera in it, and if used to much it can irritate the fish's gills.. I dont like that stuff much... Its okay in short term.

I have been using stress coat for a few months now. I don't have prime but i can get hold of it from the internet. could this be whats causing the bottom sitting periods? But its only the one fish? :wacko:

Well that the first place I would go for now hun... Some fish are more sensitive than others, just like Humans hun...

I would order Prime...

If you can look in the gills and tell me the color of them or if you can a photo :)

Thanks for helping me

I have just orderd prime off amazon. It won't be here for about a week though

Is there anything I can do in the mean time to help?

Ok I noticed that he is now gasping at the surfsce!!!!! I don't no what todo I can't get hold of any other water conditioner until 2moro?

Ok do we have a QT tank hun? You said your tap has slight Nitrites in there right? Do you have Aquatic salt? Also a Free filter for the QT tank?

I have a large tub I have set the fish up in with an airstone. I found some left over Aqua safe a had a few months ago. So I have used that instead of the API. I don't have a spare cycled filter :/ I was going to do large water changes everyday. I have salt :)

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How does the fish seem now in that water?

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How does the fish seem now in that water?

Abit better but still abit mopey. Do you think time will help doing this routine? With out the salt?

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How does the fish seem now in that water?

Abit better but still abit mopey. Do you think time will help doing this routine? With out the salt?

 

Well my first step is clean water hun....

 

Then I want to look at the fish..... Tomorrow after your Prime...Do a 100% water change and use prime...

 

Then lets look at the Gills, and a shot of the fish from the top and from the butt going to the nose :)

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How does the fish seem now in that water?

Abit better but still abit mopey. Do you think time will help doing this routine? With out the salt?

Well my first step is clean water hun....

Then I want to look at the fish..... Tomorrow after your Prime...Do a 100% water change and use prime...

Then lets look at the Gills, and a shot of the fish from the top and from the butt going to the nose :)

Thanks for all your advice :)

He does seem to be doing better being in the QT so I am just going to see how he does the next couple of days.

If he stays the same or gets worse again I will repost in this topic.

Thanks again :)

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How does the fish seem now in that water?

Abit better but still abit mopey. Do you think time will help doing this routine? With out the salt?

Well my first step is clean water hun....

Then I want to look at the fish..... Tomorrow after your Prime...Do a 100% water change and use prime...

Then lets look at the Gills, and a shot of the fish from the top and from the butt going to the nose :)

Thanks for all your advice :)

He does seem to be doing better being in the QT so I am just going to see how he does the next couple of days.

If he stays the same or gets worse again I will repost in this topic.

Thanks again :)

Do you think a fluke treatment may help? I havnt done one on these fish yet?

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How does the fish seem now in that water?

Abit better but still abit mopey. Do you think time will help doing this routine? With out the salt?
Well my first step is clean water hun....

Then I want to look at the fish..... Tomorrow after your Prime...Do a 100% water change and use prime...

Then lets look at the Gills, and a shot of the fish from the top and from the butt going to the nose :)

Thanks for all your advice :)

He does seem to be doing better being in the QT so I am just going to see how he does the next couple of days.

If he stays the same or gets worse again I will repost in this topic.

Thanks again :)

Do you think a fluke treatment may help? I havnt done one on these fish yet?

:thumbs: always !

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