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Hi All, 

 

It has been a while since I have posted anything since my fish have been so healthy and happy thanks to all the things i have learned here.  My telescopes (one female and two males) lay eggs often and I have never had any luck with them. I usually just let the eggs turn to snacks now since I am not permitted any more fishtanks, per my boyfriend (four tanks is really not a lot in my opinion!)

 

So I have admittedly not cleaned out my canister filters in er,,,, three months or more. Once I removed the top sponge, I went to dump my media into a bucket for a rinse and there was a 1"-1.5"  silver colored goldfish laying on the pebbles. I sort of screamed and called my boyfriend over to look (while I hid in the hall) at the dead fish in my filter. He went to remove it and.....it was alive!!! Ever seen that TV show "I didn't know I was pregnant?" It was like that...sort of!!!

 

So, now I have a brand new baby butterfly telescope, that based on some internet research, is about ten to twelve weeks old. He is quite large and I am baffled that he had survived in there so get to the size he is. He has a straight spine, his mouth is perfect, all the fingers and fins are accounted for. He is pooping normally (although oddly, quite a bit), and this morning he ate some gel food (I figure that is what he has been living on...in the filter!) He must have hatched in the filter or the egg hatched and was sucked into the filter and I assume he has been swimming around in the top two inches of water that the filter permits. 

 

So, now what? I have him in a five gallon bucket with some algae covered anubius and an airstone and he seems happy as a clam. But, I have some questions...

 

1) will a sponge filter work for a while? I plan on keeping him in a tub for a few months to let him grow out a bit and make water changes easier. If so, how do you seed a sponge filter for proper cycling, or is this not needed. I think I will do water changes every other day and then every three days so I am not sure if I need a cycled temp tank. 

 

2) Should I salt him? Just in case he has any injuries? He looks totally un injured, his gills are a bit pink underneath, and he seems a bit pale to me but he has been living in total darkness so that should change soon.

 

3) Is it safe and should I prazi him? I am due for my bi annual pratzi on all my tanks so I have plenty on hand (in which case he would get the salt with the treatment.

 

4) I add baking soda to my tanks to stabilize the PH. I did the calculations so long ago that I have no idea how to prep the water for smaller volumes to ensure that it matches the PH from the big tank. I used a table from Alex to calculate. Can anyone point me in the direction of that table? I want to prep five gallons and eventually a ten gallon and will do frequent water changes so I want to buffer my water properly to avoid any stress on this guy.

 

By the way, I believe the parents are my beautiful chocolate tele (who is turning orange) that has the most divine tail and my huge black moor, who is very handsome (although a big bully) since the other male has a much shorter/whider tail than the baby.

 

I will post pics sometime today since I am so proud, and still a little freaked out, about the whole thing. you can also check him out on Instagram (Me: goldfishgirly) 

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Now lets just hope I don't open my purse and find a puppy! I have not cleaned that out in a few moths either. 

 

 

 

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1) will a sponge filter work for a while? I plan on keeping him in a tub for a few months to let him grow out a bit and make water changes easier. If so, how do you seed a sponge filter for proper cycling, or is this not needed. I think I will do water changes every other day and then every three days so I am not sure if I need a cycled temp tank. 
 
A sponge will work fine. If you want to seed it (I'd recommend it) Just run it in your main tank for a week or two, preferably two. During that time you can do the WCs in the tub as you planned them. If your family would let you, I would get him a sterilite bin instead of the bucket, so that you have more surface area and water volume.
 
2) Should I salt him? Just in case he has any injuries? He looks totally un injured, his gills are a bit pink underneath, and he seems a bit pale to me but he has been living in total darkness so that should change soon.
 
I would let him rest for a bit first, and then see how he is in a week. If the gills still look light, then start a D&D for him.
 
3) Is it safe and should I prazi him? I am due for my bi annual pratzi on all my tanks so I have plenty on hand (in which case he would get the salt with the treatment.
 
Again, I personally would wait until you are sure his gills are healthy. Prazi is very gentle, but flukes love gill tissue and if his gills aren't healthy then the prazi will be harder on him.
 
4) I add baking soda to my tanks to stabilize the PH. I did the calculations so long ago that I have no idea how to prep the water for smaller volumes to ensure that it matches the PH from the big tank. I used a table from Alex to calculate. Can anyone point me in the direction of that table? I want to prep five gallons and eventually a ten gallon and will do frequent water changes so I want to buffer my water properly to avoid any stress on this guy.

 

http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/110296-stabilizing-your-tank-ph-with-sodium-bicarbonate-baking-soda/?hl=%2Bbaking+%2Bsoda+%2Btable#entry1476900

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Thanks Chelsea! As always, you are a rock star!!! - Maja

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...Now lets just hope I don't open my purse and find a puppy! I have not cleaned that out in a few moths either. 

 

:tomuch:  :goodluck:

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I looked at your pics of him and he's a cutie! Good luck with him. :)

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Seen him on IG, he's adorable! Looking forward to seeing him grow :)

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:thud What a shock!  :yikes  I love your story, thanks for sharing. :)  Now... pics for those of us not on ig. :teehee

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:thud What a shock!  :yikes  I love your story, thanks for sharing. :)  Now... pics for those of us not on ig. :teehee

 

^^This.  :photo:

 

:rofl3

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What a crazy story!!! That is awesome!

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Salt certainly won't do him any harm. Just dose him at half the recommended dosage and then see how he does. The salt will aid his gill function and if the redness you described is a break in the skin or anything like that, it can help to keep some infections out. I would suggest using ordinary pure rock salt without any anti caking agents. This is cheaper than aquarium salt but works just as well ![emoji12] this really is a remarkable story!! Good luck with the little fella.

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I hope everyone had a great holiday! Thanks for the tips. Ned is looking great, eating like a champ, and is settling in in his new tank while he grows. His gils actually look normal now that I realized he is still a bit see through with fry color. Indulge me a few pictures because I can not get over how cute he is! How often should I be feeding him? And is higher protein better for small fish? So far he has eaten gel food as a staple like the rest of my fish, he has had blood worms (that did not last long), and brine shrimp. I think I am under feeding him a bit and was wondering if upping from two to three or four small meals will be okay. My boyfriend is off for two weeks and I can make him a fish nanny to assist with extra feedings. 

 

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Wow what an interesting story! Glad the little fry was still alive after all that time in the filter ;) His top fin is huge, it reminds me of the Sail Fin Mollies I used to have years ago :teehee

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What a lovely Christmas surprise!  I can't wait to watch him grow...with your help and lots of pictures, of course!

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I think about this story often, and would love a Ned Update. :)

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Oh please, I would love an update too!   Just found this thread, and am totally amazed!  Will keep a close eye on my filters in future I think...

 

But how does one get the puppy purse idea to work???? I think that is a brilliant idea! 

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