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Upside down, Gulping air, and weird long poo?

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  • Test Results for the Following:
  • * Ammonia Level(Tank): 0.25ppm
  • * Nitrite Level(Tank): 0ppm
  • * Nitrate level(Tank): 0ppm
  • * Ammonia Level(Tap): 0ppm
  • * Nitrite Level(Tap): 0ppm
  • * Nitrate level(Tap): 0ppm
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines): 7.8
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines): N/A
  • Other Required Info:
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API Freshwater Master Test Kit
  • * Water temperature? 24 °C - 25 °C
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 29 Gallon, had previous fish in it so it was running for about 1 year
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? Aquaclear 150 and Aquaclear 50 = 350 gph
  • * How often do you change the water and how much? Every week 30%-50%
    • * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? 2 days ago 25%-30%
    • * How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 Fancy in a 29 gallon
    • * What kind of water additives or conditioners? Seacheam Prime
    • * What do you feed your fish and how often? Northfin Veggie formula (sinking pellets), Introduced Peas fews days ago, and Earthworm sticks
    • * Any new fish added to the tank? No
    • * Any medications added to the tank? No
    • * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. None
    • * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? Nothing
    • * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Going to the surface often and gulping air

Few days ago, Tuff, My red ryukin was flipping upside down after eating and he looked like he was constipated, so the next day I went to the grocery store to buy some frozen peas, I went home and heated some under the microwave for 1minute I peeled the shell off and I squish the peas and dumped it in so Tuff can eat it, later on eating it he poo out normally but this time green and the day later he started to gulp air when ever he sees me, and I don't if it's normal or not, he keeps gulping air ever since when I gave him peas, yesterday, when I checked his poo it was like really long and it was whitish case in some parts and brown in some parts, in the morning, I see poo floating to the top with air bubbles inside, I don't know what I should do.. Is there something wrong with him? I fed him some more peas so he can poo all the air out..

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Don't stress, I'm sure one of the Moderators can help you out.

I noticed you describing the poop.

I'm not as experienced as many on here, but I came across this link that describes what different types of poop can mean.

May want to check it out until someone can help with your fish problem.

http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/GoldfishPoop.html

Good luck.

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I am not good with diagnosis and medication at all but for starters at .25 ammonia and zero nitrate and nitrite I wonder if this tank is not cycled? I don't like to see that high of ammonia and it does look like your water change routine may be a bit weak. with 2 fish in a 29 gallon I would want to be changing out almost all of the water every week. cleaner water would help with general health. Also I couldn't say for sure but maybe your tank is short on oxygen? Water changes help to replinish the oxygen in the tank, as would a bubbler. You said the fish did seem to be breathing heavy. Maybe that is why it is gulping at the top. Anything odd from the other fish?

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Are you able to take any pics of the tank? There is a link for how to post pics on my siggy. :)

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Don't stress, I'm sure one of the Moderators can help you out.

I noticed you describing the poop.

I'm not as experienced as many on here, but I came across this link that describes what different types of poop can mean.

May want to check it out until someone can help with your fish problem.

http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/GoldfishPoop.html

Good luck.

I'm starting to think that he's constipated.. Since he had long white poop with air bubbles in it, but yesterday his poop look like a sausage case how like it was holding the filling in and it kept falling out and I see like a thin layer outside when the filling fell out..

I am not good with diagnosis and medication at all but for starters at .25 ammonia and zero nitrate and nitrite I wonder if this tank is not cycled? I don't like to see that high of ammonia and it does look like your water change routine may be a bit weak. with 2 fish in a 29 gallon I would want to be changing out almost all of the water every week. cleaner water would help with general health. Also I couldn't say for sure but maybe your tank is short on oxygen? Water changes help to replinish the oxygen in the tank, as would a bubbler. You said the fish did seem to be breathing heavy. Maybe that is why it is gulping at the top. Anything odd from the other fish?

The other fish doesn't gulp air as often as the ryukin, the ranchu is still acting the same, it's only the ryukin

Are you able to take any pics of the tank? There is a link for how to post pics on my siggy. :)

Heres a picture of the tank I just took a few minutes ago, Tuff just came down from gulping air.S73R1043_zps7c721247.jpg

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Don't stress, I'm sure one of the Moderators can help you out.

I noticed you describing the poop.

I'm not as experienced as many on here, but I came across this link that describes what different types of poop can mean.

May want to check it out until someone can help with your fish problem.

http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/GoldfishPoop.html

Good luck.

I'm starting to think that he's constipated.. Since he had long white poop with air bubbles in it, but yesterday his poop look like a sausage case how like it was holding the filling in and it kept falling out and I see like a thin layer outside when the filling fell out..

I am not good with diagnosis and medication at all but for starters at .25 ammonia and zero nitrate and nitrite I wonder if this tank is not cycled? I don't like to see that high of ammonia and it does look like your water change routine may be a bit weak. with 2 fish in a 29 gallon I would want to be changing out almost all of the water every week. cleaner water would help with general health. Also I couldn't say for sure but maybe your tank is short on oxygen? Water changes help to replinish the oxygen in the tank, as would a bubbler. You said the fish did seem to be breathing heavy. Maybe that is why it is gulping at the top. Anything odd from the other fish?

The other fish doesn't gulp air as often as the ryukin, the ranchu is still acting the same, it's only the ryukin

Are you able to take any pics of the tank? There is a link for how to post pics on my siggy. :)

Heres a picture of the tank I just took a few minutes ago, Tuff just came down from gulping air.S73R1043_zps7c721247.jpg

Maybe, but probably best to hold tight on doing too much until you have the more experienced folks here give you some tips.

:)

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Oh yeah, nice tank/fish.

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Oh yeah, nice tank/fish.

Thanks, now I see white stringy poop

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Hope your fish feels better! He is super cute!

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How is he doing today?

From what I read from your post, you seem to associate the gulping of air with the eating of peas. So, if you continue to feed peas, he's going to keep poop out cases of air. Let's not feed him any more peas, and go back to his old food, but at 1/3 portion.

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How is he doing today?

From what I read from your post, you seem to associate the gulping of air with the eating of peas. So, if you continue to feed peas, he's going to keep poop out cases of air. Let's not feed him any more peas, and go back to his old food, but at 1/3 portion.

So do I feed him the food little by little? He seems to be constipated, his stomach got a little bigger

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How's the fish?

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How's the fish?

When ever I come by the tank he starts gulping for air when I walk away he doesn't gulp air as often.. Maybe he's excited?

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Mine do that too.

For me, it helped that I allow the pellets to sink to the bottom.

I'm trying to get them used to looking at the bottom of the tank for food instead of the top.

I had a bad habit of feeding them up top at first.

Learning as you go, I guess.

I also give them raw peas if they get floaty...mostly the red one has that issue.

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...just read what Alex said about "no peas for now", so probably best to follow that advice over mine.

That dude is one smart cookie, and knows what he's talking about.

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How is he doing today?

From what I read from your post, you seem to associate the gulping of air with the eating of peas. So, if you continue to feed peas, he's going to keep poop out cases of air. Let's not feed him any more peas, and go back to his old food, but at 1/3 portion.

...just read what Alex said about "no peas for now", so probably best to follow that advice over mine.

That dude is one smart cookie, and knows what he's talking about.

I fed him some of the food i usually give him and now hes just chilling on the surface and pooing but then his poo is really thin and its clear, and he looks like his stomach is getting bigger. Should I fast him?

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How's the fish?

When ever I come by the tank he starts gulping for air when I walk away he doesn't gulp air as often.. Maybe he's excited?

Yeah this might just be him thinking you're feeding him so he's excited and trying to get the food he think he'll get? He doesn't do it when you're away (he can't see you)?

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I'd like some top view pics and a video, please, if you are able. :)

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How's the fish?

When ever I come by the tank he starts gulping for air when I walk away he doesn't gulp air as often.. Maybe he's excited?

Yeah this might just be him thinking you're feeding him so he's excited and trying to get the food he think he'll get? He doesn't do it when you're away (he can't see you)?

He does go up some time but not as often.. But today, he has a a weird line that came out on his bottom area and his poop is like really thing and white (transparent kinda)

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I'd like some top view pics and a video, please, if you are able. :)

I will try to take some pics tomorrow and some bottom view pics, today, after a few hours of feeding him he kept floating to the surface with his head up to the surface and his tail down and just stood there.

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Actually.. can you take a video?

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Actually.. can you take a video?

Hello, I appreciate that you are taking an interest in the case. In the interest of keep the thread streamlined, let us please read the entire thread through, and do not repeat requests for information, especially when a member of the mod team is already requesting it. Thank you, and I appreciate your understanding. :)

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I'd like some top view pics and a video, please, if you are able. :)

Heres the video of them, in the first few second the ryukin acts normal and when I turn the corner and he sees me he would go all crazy .. Sorry for the quality, my camera is not the best lol. i don't know how to post the a video on this so I'll just put the link in.

http://s1365.photobucket.com/user/nighttigerz/media/S73R1045_zpsfe364df0.mp4.html

Actually.. can you take a video?

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Do you ever feed him leafy greens like red leaf lettuce?

I am thinking that a lot of this is a behavioral issue. Perhaps he was used to flakes before, so we might want to retrain him to not gulp so much by clipping various types of veggies (blanched) or raw red leaf lettuce well below the surface...

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Do you ever feed him leafy greens like red leaf lettuce?

I am thinking that a lot of this is a behavioral issue. Perhaps he was used to flakes before, so we might want to retrain him to not gulp so much by clipping various types of veggies (blanched) or raw red leaf lettuce well below the surface...

I haven't fed him lettuce before, I found some poop today and it was white now and some were transparent, do you think I should fast him?

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