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Bloody-looking, Ripped/torn Tail - PLEASE HELP

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My oranda's fins are all bloody looking. They're torn apart, but symmetrical on both sides. I have two Chinese Algae eaters in the tank. Is this Finrot or do you think the algae eaters are biting at him? Or something else?

He's eating just fine and swimming around like nothing is wrong. No outward displays of this problem other than the visual ones.

Please help!

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Could you please answer the questions at the top. This will help us to help you better.

It does look a little like rot but also the redness makes me thing something might be wrong with the water.

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Oops, sorry! :doh11:

* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change?

Today, about 25%.

* How many fish in the tank and their size?

Two orandas, one fantail, one male betta (who is as friendly as can be, gets along with everyone), and two Chinese algae eates. 50 gal.

* What kind of water additives or conditioners?

Jungle brand Start Right conditioner with Aloe Vera. Tetra brand WaterClarifier (used a day and a half ago)."

* What do you feed your fish and how often?

Many different types of vegetables: potatoes, squash, peas (to name a few) every day. Bananas, apples, and oranges every couple days. Flakes every day.

* Any new fish added to the tank?

Two Chinese algae eaters. One and a half inch. Two and a half inches. They were added about three weeks ago.

* Any medications added to the tank?

Not recently, but I do use Rid*Ick.

* List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.

Rid*Ick - Over a month ago.

Tetra brand WaterClarifier - a day and a half ago

Jungle brand Start Right conditioner - About a week ago.

* Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?

Bloody streaks and torn tail.

* Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?

No. He's acting like nothing has happened. Eating well. Swimming well. Very active, like usual.

* Water Temperature?

72F

* Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?

50gal. Over 5 months.

* What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?

Wisper filter. Came with tank.

* How often do you change the water and how much?

At least once a week. 25%.

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That's a good start. The first half are important too, though. :)

  • * Ammonia Level
  • * Nitrite Level
  • * Nitrate level
  • * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
  • * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops?
  • * Water temperature?
  • * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running?
  • * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)?
  • * How often do you change the water and how much?

Hope things get better for the poor guy.

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I also checked his gills to see if they were bloody-looking or lavender-colored. Gills look fine.

He looks absolutely fine except for his tail.

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I don't have a way of checking for nitrates, ammonia, etc. at the moment.

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My father has PH strips. Let me check.

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I don't have a way of checking for nitrates, ammonia, etc. at the moment.

If you dont have a test kit, you can always go to the LFS and have them test your water. Just bring a sample of your tank water and ask them for the numbers... :thumb: Dont let them say its okay. :(

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Alright. Petsmart's the closest... I live in the middle of NOWHERE. Will they do water tests?

Also, pH is about 6.8-6.9. I used test strips my dad had in his truck. He's the Director of Public Utilities.

Our water comes from a natural spring. That's the water I use for the tank. Not sure if that's useful information or not. Just trying to throw anything out there to help.

I also took out the algae eaters and put them in the 10gal for the moment. Just in case.

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This is all good information :thumb:

Yes petsmart will test it for you. Just make sure they give you the numbers. Just tell them your getting help from an online forum Koko's goldfish. :thumb:

As for the ph its alittle on the low end. Does your dad have a KH test? that would be good too :)

That is great you moved them, I would also move the betta too. Sometimes these fish will nip on fins :(

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Alright. Will do! :)

What is a good pH for them? And how do I get it back up?

Also, I'm having to leave to go to work. I will pick up some Ammonia strips. Anything else I should pick up?

Algae eaters and betta are moved to separate tanks.

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Alright. Will do! :)

What is a good pH for them? And how do I get it back up?

Also, I'm having to leave to go to work. I will pick up some Ammonia strips. Anything else I should pick up?

Algae eaters and betta are moved to separate tanks.

Ph should be atleast 7.0 to 8.0 :) If you can find it Seachem's Gold buffer will do the trick :thumb: its a buffer to keep the ph up and the KH up. If not maybe you could order online at the goldfishconnection.com. Rick hess there has a buffer called Buff it up. I use this one.

Also see if you can get some crushed coral, this will also help keep your ph up there too :)

Actually if you can pick up the API Master test kit :thumb:

Also Aquarium salt is always good to have on hand :)

Im also wondering if your filter isnt strong enough. Goldfish need filtration of 10x an hour of there tank. So your tank is a 50 gallon tank you will need a filter or combination of filters that do 500 gallons an hour :thumb:

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(On my phone. Hope this posts correctly.)

Thank you so much!

Is coral still okay for a freshwater tank?

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Its crushed coral... yup its normally in a bag. Sometimes you can ask them to see if they have an open bag in the back. :thumb: You would want about a cup of it :)

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Okay, thank you! :D

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Any updates on your fish? :)

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