Test Results for the Following:
* Ammonia Level(Tank) 0.25-0.5 ppm
* Nitrite Level(Tank) 0 ppm
* Nitrate level(Tank) 0 ppm
* Ammonia Level(Tap) 0 ppm
* Nitrite Level(Tap) 0 ppm
* Nitrate level(Tap) 0 ppm
* Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) pH 7, GH/KH unknown but pH is stable
* Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines)
Other Required Info:
* Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? API master kit
* Water temperature? 68-70 F
* Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? Holds roughly 25 gallons, running about a month
* What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? An Aquaclear 70 and a Hydro V sponge rated for 125 gallons
* How often do you change the water and how much? As needed to keep parameters under control, every 2 days or so
* How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? 90% last night
* How many fish in the tank and their size? 1 ryukin, about 5 inches, big girl!
* What kind of water additives or conditioners? Seachem Prime, double dosed for ammonia detox. Tetra Safestart
* What do you feed your fish and how often? Repashy soilent green as staple, supplemented with veggies and occasional bloodworms
* Any new fish added to the tank? No
* Any medications added to the tank? See below
* List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment.
* Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus?
* Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.?
Hello! This lovely lady is Pumpkin, and she's been struggling with some baffling health issues for a few months. We're at the end of our rope and would appreciate anyone's input on what might be going on. I'm a mod on the TGT forum posting this on behalf of Pumpkin's owner, Buzz, since she doesn't have an account here. I apologize if there's ever been some bad blood between members from our forum and this one but Pumpkin is such a deeply loved little fish and we just want to do anything we can to help her feel better.
This is going to be long, but I'm including as much detail as I can to make sure you have a full picture.
Background: up until recently she's been in a 20 gallon tank, bare bottom since she likes to snack on substrate. Minimal decor, she flails around and injures herself on most things. Just a few softer fake plants and a bunch of glass marbles to push around. She was fluked in August 2016 with PraziPro and metroplex food. She's 2-3 years old and has been very healthy and strong up until this winter.
The tank experienced a cycle crash after a long power outage in November so Buzz had been doing extra water changes while it re-cycled. She fell behind on changes due to work and on Dec 2nd 2016 she posted these pictures.
Pumpkin was shedding slime and it had completely covered her eyes. Other vague symptoms including lethargy, stringy poo, a few small white lumps, and a little red streaking in the tail. Ammonia was around 1 ppm but dropped to 0.25 ppm after an emergency water change. We suggest adding some aquarium salt, and assumed it was just a reaction to water quality.
By Dec 5th she was much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dr0brXjLe8 (she just ate here and is chewing)
Dec 7th she was starting to go downhill again. Clamping, bottom sitting, labored breathing, slime on eyes returned, odd erratic swimming. Salt kept at .2% and extra prime dosed to help with ammonia along with water changes. Remains fairly stable for a few more days
Dec 12th she nosedived rapidly over a period of hours. Clamped, lethargic, color faded, shedding a lot of slime, gasping badly even with aeration. Begins listing to the side and occasionally stops breathing. We didn't expect her to make it through the night. 10 gallon QT tank dosed with triple sulfa and a 2x dose of API general cure (for the metronidazole, Buzz didn't have metroplex on hand). Ammonia and nitrite were at 0.25 ppm, water changes and prime keeping it below toxic levels. No nitrate to speak of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CJZVLH-7qg (This is early in the day before her really bad dip, but I don't have any other pics or videos of her until the next day)
Incredibly, she survived! She moves occasionally in the morning, still heavily clamped, tail very red, begins losing some of the excess slime and looking a little less dire. Her appetite isn't as voracious as usual but she takes some bloodworms given with tweezers. We ask Buzz to check her gills due to the heavy breathing, they're normal solid red.
She improves over the next few days, fins raise, blood streaking fades, body color deepens, a little black appears on her tail where some ammonia burns have begun to heal. She's lost a few grams during the ordeal but not excessively.
On Dec 16th the metroplex arrives and the General cure is replaced with the metro mixed into repashy gel. By the end of the course of sulfa and metro she's doing much better. We're still puzzled as to what could have hit that hard and fast, but Pumpkin is back to her boisterous hungry self and we figure it's over.
Jan 7th Buzz posts again, this time it's her male betta (in a separate tank) showing almost identical symptoms to what Pumpkin had a few weeks before. Clamping, loss of color, blood streaks in fins, listing to the side, lethargy, practically on death's door. He spontaneously recovers a few days later without medication. Before and during his illness:
We wonder if it's something in the water at this point given the fact that her other fish has come down with the same mystery illness. We encourage Buzz to get her water professionally tested, but she is a minor and her parents are not willing to do it and she can't afford it herself.
For a while Pumpkin levels out. She's moved out of QT, remains listless and has some slight swim bladder issues with staying upright. She is switched to repashy only and taken off the Omega One pellets she had been fed before, hoping to nip the SB problem in the bud. The ammonia levels don't rise as quickly anymore but Buzz is vigilant with water changes and testing anyway. Pumpkin still has stringy poop and clamps slightly. She's a smart fish and we wonder if boredom in her empty tank might be contributing to her stress so we work on some enrichment ideas. Unfortunately she manages to injure herself on most everything we try so Buzz has to remove most of it.
Buzz hopes a tank upgrade might make her more comfortable and gets ahold of a very strange 36 gallon semicircle tank used from a neighbor. Pumpkin begins to float nosedown almost immediately in the new tank, which is very tall, so she's moved back to her 20 asap.
The next week she gets a nice standard 29 gal, and looks much happier in it. She moves in on Jan 21st
The cycle process is ongoing, ammonia is still elevated. Stays steady around 0.5 ppm with occasional spikes to 1 ppm. Prime dosed religiously. Pumpkin struggles with balance and yawns occasionally.
Jan 31st Buzz posts pictures of a suspect reddish patch with a tiny open sore on her peduncle. Looks like the early stage of a small ulcer. She also has multiple small injuries and knocks as though she had been flashing, filter intake is padded just in case she's hurting herself on it. That plus the yawning possibly point to flukes, given she hasn't been treated for them since August and her immune system has taken a hit lately.
On Feb 2nd the tank is dosed with Prazipro. On the 3rd, kanaplex is added for the sore which has gotten worse
Mistakenly removed the Kanaplex on Feb 5th after only 3 days when she should have finished out the full course.
We realize the mistake on Feb 9th when Pumpkin's infection had progressed to a bright red lump and dark bloody tail. Carbon is used to remove the prazi, and the tank is then dosed with Kanaplex and sulfa together. We watch carefully for any signs of kidney stress but thankfully see none.
The redness reduces slowly
Feb 15th she is no longer clamped and is swimming normally again
On Feb 19th she is doing better than she has in quite a while. She's less lethargic and more inquisitive and friendly again. The kana and sulfa courses are finished, Buzz does a 75% wc but does not fully remove it. As soon as I realize I tell her to do a full change so as not to leave the non-therapeutic dose in. Pumpkin begins clamping heavily again.
Saturday (the 25th) she reported a small amount of slime on her eyes again. We hold off on treatment, she's been on a lot of meds lately and we don't want to do anything more to stress her system. Salt is added at .1% but nothing else.
And finally today she's started back into the pattern from December, bottom sitting, shedding heavy slime, clamped, tilting sideways. We had Buzz remove the marbles as well, in case they might be leaching something. The parameters at the top of the thread are as of this morning.
We're stumped and desperate to help her. I'm hoping that someone here may have seen something like this before. I've spent several late nights combing through all the resources I have and just haven't been able to tie things together. I feel like there has to be a connection between all of this, I just can't find it. A water contaminant is still our best theory but without more comprehensive testing we might not be able to confirm it. Pumpkin is a strong girl but we don't know if she has the strength to keep pushing through much longer. We all absolutely adore her and love her like she's our own, it would be devastating to lose her after all she's gone through