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210 Oranda

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  1. Yes, I agree. Prazipro is a fussy substance. I use Aqua Prazi for quarantine and mixed treatments and just use Prazipro for maintenance rounds with no salt. What was the dosage of the Metro. I use the upper 200 mg per 10 gallons as the water borne isn't as readily absorbed as the food. Food is better. I think NLS Hex Shield is our best new option if the fish is eating. I know this guy wasn't eating. I used the metroplex as directed.. 1 level scoop per 10 gallon of water, from September 27 to October 10.. (w/ .1% salt) Then from October 11 to October 22 Kana along with prazipro (single dose, no salt) On the bright side.. I've seen the (original) butterfly to look for food at times.. she still spit out the gel while syringe fed but I have seen her getting some brine shrimp when I toss them in for the "other" butterfly However.. that "hungry/looking for food" behavior is inconsistent.. but I think it is something positive
  2. Both butterflies came form DO at same time along with a ranchu.. Ranchu is doing great, already in main tank The butterfly in C shape was doing good during the metro & kana treatments.. she was somehow lethargic but I thought she was being sympathetic to the "non-eating" butterfly.. she got to C shape after I added prazi for the second time I will continue the paraguard along with the prazi + salt as suggested and I'll also use outside water (non soften) "just in case" I was about to turn the lights off and I noticed the fin rot on the (original) butterfly.. Should I "triple sufla" ??? (or isn't relevant right now)
  3. Over a month in QT and the behavior is still the same.. One butterfly is being syringe fed and is still spitting out the food The butterfly you see below loves to eat but (in the last couple of days) she stays in a C shape most of the time I don't know if she's dying.. she search for food at times but goes back to C shape after eating They have had 14 days of metro (alone), 12 days of kana (alone), 2 rounds of prazi (while w/ kana) and paraguard for 4 days What should I do ??? :(
  4. I just realized that one of my little tanks have been exposed to some metal rust.. so the fish have been exposed as well The LED light I bought wasn't 100% plastic as I thought so being so close to the water cause for it to drip contaminated water into the tank Besides water change.. is there anything else I should do to (or with) the fish ??? (exuse the typo) Thanks!!
  5. I've used once (before softener) city water because of its minerals.. however it is not as easy to do water changes that with softened water.My GH doesn't get affected (I think).. as I mentioned earlier it is in the 3 or 400's (w/ soft water) My main 125G has soft water and I have no problems w it.. I definitely like to try city water with the butterfly but it concerns me that (if it works) and once out of QT.. she might go back to where she is now
  6. I don't have it in top of my head..Lisa (fantail1) gave me my exact number once but I lost it.. It was somewhere in the 3 or 400's.. my water is super hard A water softener hasn't been installed since you last tested, has it? Beautiful fish by the way. I've always had a water softener.. I asked about using soft water vs regular city water and I had divided answers. I use soft because is just easier for me
  7. I don't have it in top of my head.. Lisa (fantail1) gave me my exact number once but I lost it.. It was somewhere in the 3 or 400's.. my water is super hard
  8. I think Im losing her.. She has been breathing heavy all day / bottom sitting and when moving her swiming is very clumsy..
  9. Just a quick parenthesis.. I have two butterflies and ranchu in the same tank.. and even though the ranchu is "living it" I left him with the butterflies to be treated w/ the metro.. Im planning to move the ranchu to the main tank as soon as the 14 days of metro ends.. Just making sure that a couple of days of Paraguard is not gonna lower the ranchu defenses...
  10. Got it!.. thx.. I'll add the Paraguard as soon as I get home.. just FYI, today is the 6th dose (11 day) of metro (in case someone wonders) and no.. No poop
  11. Chelsea.. thank you for the input but she is refusing to keep the syringed food inside.. It was a fight just to make her stay still in my hand and even though she did swallow some of the (repashy) paste she did spit it out after "chewing" it for a few seconds. I don't know what to do or say anymore.. we are on the 10th day of metro powder but no change She has to be having some kind of intake to be able to be alive today (today is the 17th day w/o food) If there's anything else you guys can think of please let me know.. who knows how much longer she will last Despite spitting out most of the food, she likely is getting some of it in. The repashy paste is messy so it leaks out when feeding happens, and it looks like she's not getting any when she actually is getting some. I remember when I had to syringe-feed. It was always a messy affair! Are you waiting until she has settled before you try feeding? It's not about 'making' her stay still as it is about allowing her to get comfortable. Fish who are stressed won't eat just as much as fish who are sick won't eat. Also, how long/often have you been doing the syringe feeding? I have only tried this twice because is extremely messy.. and yes, I've waited for her to (somewhat) calm before I feed. however, she does NOT get "comfortable".. she breathes really fast when in my hand, so I know she doesn't like it.. Now.. why did you say that is "safer" to syringe feed that to add the paste to a small container so she can be forced to intake the food ???? (thx!)
  12. Chelsea.. thank you for the input but she is refusing to keep the syringed food inside.. It was a fight just to make her stay still in my hand and even though she did swallow some of the (repashy) paste she did spit it out after "chewing" it for a few seconds. I don't know what to do or say anymore.. we are on the 10th day of metro powder but no change She has to be having some kind of intake to be able to be alive today (today is the 17th day w/o food) If there's anything else you guys can think of please let me know.. who knows how much longer she will last
  13. Ladies.. I have an idea (perhaps dumb) but it might work.. Repashy has to be boiled to solidify. The powder/water mix is only a paste that can be diluted if added in water... What happens if I add some of that mix (without boiling) to a small container where the butterfly is ??? She will be basically swimming in food "for like 20-30 seconds".. I don't know if the mix "HAS" to be boiled for the ingredients/nutrients to be active (I doubt it) Any thoughts??
  14. No food.. Im driving home (she didn't eat this morning).. Its gonna be really challenging because she doesn't like to be touched.. All I've seen the couple of times I put her in the small container to force feeding is a "white string poop" 30-40min after
  15. Im ordering Paraguard and NLS Hex and I did what you told me earlier.. I hope with all that food something went into the digestive track At the end of the video you can see her spitting out the worms..
  16. I know is impossible to tell without proper studies.. but is it possible that something inside her "isn't there anymore" or it got ruined that she now refuses to have any intakes ??
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