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  1. The "C" shape one just died.. Lets focus on the surviving one... PLEASE Oh no. So sad. I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you..
  2. I asked my neighbor (who's a vet) and she doesn't know anyone in town that deals with GF.. I guess the demand doesn't justify the specialty Out of curiosity, do you know the price range of this medicine?..
  3. Great!!.. The C shape one has become pineconed.. As you know we did not do the metro and kana together.. She's still breathing so I would like to treat her for this internal infection.. Both of the butterflies are in a 10G QT so I don't know if you want the Epsom and "whatever else meds" in the QT or in a separate bucket.. I rather to treat togehter (I already have another one w/ dropsy in a bucket) hoping that this doesn't affect the other butterfly that just started to eat. How should I proceed ??..
  4. I don't know anything about ryukins eating wens, like Chelsea said I think is more like an specific-fish behavior thing.. Now.. I don't know how slow of fast are the pearlscales but if they're as slow as ranchus I would keep an eye of everyone's food intake My ryukins & young orandas are the "speedsters" in the tank.. :feedme Every day I have to feed separately my 4 ranchus because the speedsters rush in all directions to get as much as they can in their mouths leaving the chubby ones with no food.. My orandas weren't like that, they've learned it from the ryukins.. but know knows.. maybe your ryukin is a well mannered fish
  5. This one (below) is still alive but I doubt she's gonna come back from what she has.. She's barely moving and not longer eating (last 72hrs).. I'm really thinking to put her out of her misery The other one is still the same.. lethargic all day but eating worms once a day
  6. I was in the impression that Petco & Petsmart along with most of the LFS's bring their fish from China or from a broker along the coast such a golden phoenix fisheries in CA who supply to dozens or hundreds LFS's in the country. If this is true.. most of the GF in US are imports, right?... The only option we (hobbyists) will have to get something healthier is from a US breeder like the one you're mentioning in Oregon, no? I was told that "goldfishonline.com" gets their fish from golden phoenix which bring their fish from China
  7. Adjusting temperature from faucet when doing WC's for QT tanks is irrelevant.my tap's ph is 7.4 but after overnight de-gas with an air stone reaches 8.4 Therefore aged (tub or bucket) water reaches room temperature b4 water change I guess the answer should be, Yes?
  8. Hi again. I have kind of a similar situation in that I can use my outside spigot except in winter. I am going to try using Seachem Replenish for my winter water changes with my softened tap water (fortunately it is not that expensive as far as aquarium supplements go!). I probably won't bring it all the way up to 11 with Replenish, maybe around and 8 unless I see issues (and I'll be keeping a Wondershell in there too). I have a gH kit from API that I use to measure the hardness. Just throwing that out there as it may be a solution for you too. Seachem also has a product called Equillibrium which is a gH booster without added sodium (for plant growers). I don't think the extra sodium in Replenish is going to matter as much as just keeping up the Ca and Mg concentrations. There are other gH boosters mostly marketed for Cichlids and plant growers, so you may find something even cheaper out there too. Again, I haven't tried any of this yet, it is just the plan I have going as I head into winter. I hope everything keeps looking up for your fish! They are so beautiful. I love DO fish and look forward to their auction each week! How about just to "by pass" the water from the softener..?? (I have the valve to do that, do you?) In my case I will have to run the water for several minutes to allow all "soft" water to exit the pipes.. I'm not willing to waste so much water right now.. I'll use a hose from the outside thru the window now, I guess.. then when it gets cold.. I'll bypass it Never mind to the "by pass" during winter.. That will bring Ca & Ma to my piping and eventually cause me problem$$
  9. What is "exactly" what Im looking for in "that water" test.. ? I never done one so I don't know what to look for when I call an analysist
  10. Hi again. I have kind of a similar situation in that I can use my outside spigot except in winter. I am going to try using Seachem Replenish for my winter water changes with my softened tap water (fortunately it is not that expensive as far as aquarium supplements go!). I probably won't bring it all the way up to 11 with Replenish, maybe around and 8 unless I see issues (and I'll be keeping a Wondershell in there too). I have a gH kit from API that I use to measure the hardness. Just throwing that out there as it may be a solution for you too. Seachem also has a product called Equillibrium which is a gH booster without added sodium (for plant growers). I don't think the extra sodium in Replenish is going to matter as much as just keeping up the Ca and Mg concentrations. There are other gH boosters mostly marketed for Cichlids and plant growers, so you may find something even cheaper out there too. Again, I haven't tried any of this yet, it is just the plan I have going as I head into winter. I hope everything keeps looking up for your fish! They are so beautiful. I love DO fish and look forward to their auction each week! How about just to "by pass" the water from the softener..?? (I have the valve to do that, do you?) In my case I will have to run the water for several minutes to allow all "soft" water to exit the pipes.. I'm not willing to waste so much water right now.. I'll use a hose from the outside thru the window now, I guess.. then when it gets cold.. I'll bypass it
  11. Very interesting links, thank you.. I'm going to (try to) use hard water next time I do a WC to the main tank (125G) To be honest, "my crew" hasn't grow (at all) in the main tank as they should.. I thought I just had a bad batch from the LFS but I have fish from other (reputable) sources and they haven't grown either (I gotta check their weight to see if there's any increment, but doubt it) It is going to be a pain to use hard because of my tank's setup but definately worth to try
  12. Well.. GE (water softener manufacturer) couldn't tell me much.. They just said what "butterfly" has already said.. The softener only removes Ca & Mg and replaces with Na.. (supposedly) it doesn't do anything else to any other element Here's the report of the local water.. I don't understand it but maybe some of you do and can tell if some of the elements are (or could be) bad for GF
  13. It is crazy, isn't !?.. they look "kinda" normal for a second then back to "trashed".. Im supposed to dig a little in regards my water softener system I know is not an RO system but Im not sure what system it is and what does it do to the water (chemically) If I don't find answers from manufacturer or City sources I'll be hiring someone to do an analysis What exactly am I asking to the analysis people in regards the water ?? _______________________________________ In regards "luck".. I don't know.. I have nine fish to be in what I see as "thriving" mode.. but who knows, maybe they're not One thing I remember that Ken (dandy) told me is that this butterflies usually get lethargic at first then either get better or (they) never get better.. They're used to ponds and direct sunlight so I don't know if I ended up with "those drama fish" that will never be able to acclimate to a new enviroment
  14. You can use that 29G to make a sump and buy a 55G (for$55) for the 3 fish I personally have #2 (trickle) which I think is the most common (but not sure) It is excellent for biological filtration but not mechanical. I added some pothos plant in the return area along witha DIY "algae scrubber" to help with nitrates The one I have I purchased it from a closing store for $50 w/ pump included but they can go for $150-$200 new (without pump) You should try Craigslist.. someone is always upgrading or retiring Watch the videos below and you'll find out how much will it cost (more less) to make one sump1 - fluidized moving Sump2 - Emerged Trickle Sump3 - Submerged
  15. Here they are after 50WC with non-soft water.. I'll do another 50WC this evening They do go completely motionless & C shape a few minutes after feeding
  16. Sounds like a plan.. I'll shoot a short video tomorrow night to see their behavior Where do I get the powder ?? Amazon,Ebay ??
  17. Symptoms as today: Butterfly 1 (red, black, white) C shape most of the day.. straighten up only when searching for food or eating, then back to "C" shape.. lethargic all day Butterfly 2 (black, white) Lethargic and refuses to eat normal (since Sep 18), spits out food and has fin rot I move this fish to a small container in a daily basis to force feed / syringe feed. I have seen a very small improvement in this one.. I see her searching for food every now and then and I've seen her eating a few brine shrimp and bloodworms, not all the time, very sporadically Symptoms as today: Butterfly 1 (red, black, white) C shape most of the day.. straighten up only when searching for food or eating, then back to "C" shape.. lethargic all day Butterfly 2 (black, white) Lethargic and refuses to eat normal (since Sep 18), spits out food and has fin rot I move this fish to a small container in a daily basis to force feed / syringe feed. I have seen a very small improvement in this one.. I see her searching for food every now and then and I've seen her eating a few brine shrimp and bloodworms, not all the time, very sporadically Okay, so as of now, there is no heavy breathing going on, correct? Not normal but not heavy either.. just faster than normal (does it make sense ?) Let me rephrase what I said above.. "C" shape butterfly, normal while in C shape The other butterfly, not heavy but not normal either. A little faster than normal
  18. So, was the Paraguard dosed from 10/8-10/11, interrupted and then restarted on 10/21? As for the Ranchu, I wouldn't worry about it. There's nothing to be done about it now, anyway. If this is parasitic, it "may" be an issue. If it is bacterial. it probably won't be a concern. Just observe for any problems in the main tank. Yea.. sorry .. I stopped paraguard because I think I saw them getting worse.. and I thought it was too much meds (kana + paraguard + prazi).. "another uneducated guess" And as for the main tank.. I just moved minutes ago one the residents to a bucket.. dropsy Who knows if the ranchu brought something into the tank.. I just (top view) the new ranchu and his scales are not flush-flat to the body but they're not pineconed either I don't wanna get distracted from the butterflies thread.. sorry.. I'll treat dropsy and if needed I'll start another thread
  19. Symptoms as today: Butterfly 1 (red, black, white) C shape most of the day.. straighten up only when searching for food or eating, then back to "C" shape.. lethargic all day Butterfly 2 (black, white) Lethargic and refuses to eat normal (since Sep 18), spits out food and has fin rot I move this fish to a small container in a daily basis to force feed / syringe feed. I have seen a very small improvement in this one.. I see her searching for food every now and then and I've seen her eating a few brine shrimp and bloodworms, not all the time, very sporadically
  20. By the way.. I moved the ranchu to the main tank on Oct 10 after finishing the 14 days of metro.. He is super active & loves to eat but Im just a little concerned of what you said.. Meaning that if the butterflies "have something" is possible that the ranchu has it and now it has been transfered to the main tank..
  21. Sep 15: Arrival (2 butterflies & 1 ranchu) Sep 15-18: De-stress days (just WC & double prime) Sep 18: 1st day (black+white) butterfly shows no interest in food Sep 19: 100%WC + 110g salt (@ 0.1% - 29G tank) + prazipro single (1st round) Sep 21: 85%WC + 90g salt + 1.25 tsp prazi (re-dose) Sep 23: 90%WC Sep 25: 90%WC + 98g salt Sep 27: 90WC + 98g salt + Metro powder (1st round) Sep 29: 90WC + 98g salt + Metro powder (2nd round) Oct 1: 90WC + 98g salt + Metro powder (3rd round) Oct 3: 90WC + 98g salt + Metro powder (4th round) Oct 5: 90WC + 98g salt + Metro powder (5th round) Oct 7: 90WC + 98g salt + Metro powder (6th round) Oct 8: paraguard added 1st time Oct 9: 90WC + 98g salt + Metro powder (7th round) + paraguard Oct 11: 100WC + Kana powder (1st round) + prazipro single (2nd round) + paraguard Oct 13: 100WC + prazipro single re-dose + Kana (2nd round) Oct 15: 100wc (remove all prazi) + kana (3rd round) Oct 17: 100WC + prazipro single (3rd round) + kana (4th round) Oct 19: 100wc + prazi single re-dose + Kana (5th) Oct 21: 100WC (remove all prazi) + Kana (6th) + paraguard
  22. Taryl.. Since this (above) reply does not longer apply because of what Hikari has told you.. What do you suggest ??.. I'm doing 50%wc in the morning w/ non-soft water then another 50% in the evening (w/ no-soft) What about meds, if any ??
  23. Yes, I agree. Prazipro is a fussy substance. I use Aqua Prazi for quarantine and mixed treatments and just use Prazipro for maintenance rounds with no salt. What was the dosage of the Metro. I use the upper 200 mg per 10 gallons as the water borne isn't as readily absorbed as the food. Food is better. I think NLS Hex Shield is our best new option if the fish is eating. I know this guy wasn't eating. I used the metroplex as directed.. 1 level scoop per 10 gallon of water, from September 27 to October 10.. (w/ .1% salt) Then from October 11 to October 22 Kana along with prazipro (single dose, no salt) On the bright side.. I've seen the (original) butterfly to look for food at times.. she still spit out the gel while syringe fed but I have seen her getting some brine shrimp when I toss them in for the "other" butterfly However.. that "hungry/looking for food" behavior is inconsistent.. but I think it is something positive Okay, they've changed the directions and formula slightly. They use to give you the option of 1-2 scoops per 10 gallons. I still use 2 scoops per 10 gallons as water borne Metronidazole isn't absorbed as well as the Metro food. I also general combine Metroplex with a gram negative antibiotic such as Kanaplex simultaneously because Metro is a very specific medication for a couple of parasites and gram positive bacteria and doesn't provide a broad spectrum treatment. Since most parasites will survive Metronidazole and most bacterial infections are gram negative, it is not usually effective on it's own. It is, however, effective when combined with the appropriate (complimentary) meds. What meds are in the water currently? Yesterday was the last (6th) dose of kana.. so today is their 12th day they also have the paraguard (yesterday & today), but nothing else (yet).. I know that I should have used the kana + metro as combo but things started w/ metro just as "preventive-antiprotoazan" method
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