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  1. Kakashi just died. : Thanks for trying to help guys. .
  2. Kakashi just died. : Thanks for trying to help guys. Poor Iruka, he lost his only friend.
  3. I don't have any clove oil. Iruka is hovering by him now, and keeps nudging him. Kakashi is still hanging in there, but I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not at this point. : I haven't tried to feed them, should I? I'm not even sure he could eat.
  4. I have no garlic juice. Is there nothing I can do for him? It's breaking my heart to see him like this. If I can't save him, I would rather speed his passing than let him suffer. He's clearly distressed. I hate being so helpless. Do you guys have idea what caused this? My other fish, Iruka, is fine. Iruka has always been a little faster than Kakashi, and Kakashi has had constipation problems since I rescued him, but they have been treated exactly the same . I'm worried that if it's bacterial I might lose both of them.
  5. Last week I made this post about Kakashi, which has all the background and updates on his condition. http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/forum/index.php?/topic/98945-floaty-then-bottom-sitting/ I put a heater into my tank, and now it is 24 degrees C. I am also doing 50% WC daily, the last one was about 20 minutes ago. Kakashi has been steadily getting worse, He was having trouble keeping up with Iruka at feeding time, so I fed them seperately. On friday, when he took a bite of spinjach, he spat it out again. I tried a pea, but he wouldn't eat that either. Yesterday when I left for work he was hovering at the bottom, but not sitting on it. I was out all night with a work function and when I came home at midnight, he was sitting on the bottom. This morning when I woke up he is lyinjg on his side at the bottom, his head and tail are touching the stones, but his mid section is floating in the air. Iruka keeps going over to him, and he flails weakly but can't seem to actually move or swim. Sometimes he starts gasping, but only when he's trying to move. I did a 60% water change and want to feed him, but don't know how when he's like this. My friend works in a pet store and she told me he's dying. I have no idea what to do to help him.
  6. Update again - So I fed him part of a pea, and he's swimming, but is not going to lying on his side at the bottom from time to time. Because he always got floaty after meals I assumed it was a problem with gas or constipation, but now I'm worried it's bacterial. Is there anything I can do to find out?
  7. Update. I did a 50% water change and fed them spinach yesterday. Kakashi was a little floaty, but better than he had been. Today I came home from work and nearly had a heart attack because he was floating at the top as if dead, with his tail and head down. When I went over, though, he moved and started getting excited. All evening he's been swimming around a little, then going back to his corner and floating as if dead for a while. He moves whenever I go near, so I can't get a good picture. I'm feeding them a pea tonight to see if it helps. Any other suggestions? He's still in the little tank because I don't think he could handle the surface movement in the big tank when he's so floaty. I'm really worried about him. Poor Kakashi.
  8. It is possible to seed the 70L with the 17L, but I don't have access to seachem prime or any other cycling product. I've never seen any at the hardware store I use and I have no idea where else to look. The nearest big city is Sendai which is 2 and a half hours away, so I would have to cycle with my fish in the tank and lots of wc. I took the heater out about 3 weeks ago to prevent the fluctuation, I'm reluctant to use a heater when thetemperature is so changable because I'm concerned my fish will go into shock. I can put it back in if you think it will help though. I'm going to bed now, but Kakashi isn't bottom sitting anymore, he is at a 45 degree angle to the bottom and just kind of resting there. Iruka is just hovering horizontally next to him. I'll check on them again in the morning. I've been away all weekend, so they haven't been fed since Friday night. I will do a wc and feed them spinach tomorrow, and hopefully move them into the big tank. If Kakashi is floaty again tomorrow after being fed, should I still move him over? Thanks for all your help btw. It's appreciated!
  9. Iruka is fine, it is only kakashi that is not doing well, but I moved them bother because they don't like being seperated. I kept their original tank cycled properly. I checked the water parametres for both tanks weekly to make sure. The 0.25 ammonia was always a problem in the small tank because the filter can't handle the waste produced, which was why I moved them in the first place. Before they came to me they were kept in very bad condition. They came from a fairground-type game popular in Japan where hundreds of goldfish are kept in a small shallow pool and scooped up by people. Then their original owner had them in the 17L tank for a year with very few WC, too much food, and a diet purely of hikari floating pellets that weren't soaked beforehand. They both had problem with constipation when I first got them, but Iruka now seems fine and it is only Kakashi who hasn't improved. I can move them back into the big tank, but the cycle has crashed now since I was more concerned with getting Kakashi better than keeping it up, so I would have to start from scratch again. Do you think Kakashi could handle this, or should I cycle with just Iruka? My other option is to use the equipment in the smaller tank in the larger tank to make it cycle faster, but this would be dismantling my QT. They had a heater over winter because North Japan gets very cold, but the temperture was creeping up to 24 when I was home and dropping to 13 when I wasn't. I figured the constant fluctuations wasn't very good for them, so removed it. The temp is a little cold now because it is still winter here and Japanese houses lack insulation, but it doesn't fluctuate as much. I can't have a heater all-year round because in summer the temperature outside rockets up to 40 C, so I have trouble keeping my tank cool enough. I ended up dedicating a fan to this purpose last summer. I'm not sure how long exactly this has been building, but he's been floaty after feeding for about a month now. At first it was just after processed food, and now it's after all food. I'm looking into changing his diet. I have frozen spinach, but I can't find bloodworms. I live in a very rural area so there isn't really a suitable pet store nearby. I have never treated for anything, and I don't think their previous owner did either. I wouldn't really know how to and my Japanese isn't good enough to read instructions, so I daren't risk it unless I really needed to. I can try, but he gets very hyper when I go near the tank. Also, today he's not been at the bottom as much, but his tail is kind of curved upwards. I've been away most of the day though. Tomorrow I will do another large WC and sort out the large tank to try and reduce the surface water movement. amynmitchell - I have considered abandonning processed food, but I'm not very sure how to prepare them for my fish, or even what some foods are called in Japanese. As I said, there is no pet store in my town, and I get most of my equipment from a homeware store but that's just the basics really. I had to import my API drop kit from England because I couldn't find one in my area.
  10. Test Results for the Following: * Ammonia Level = 0.25 * Nitrite Level = 0 * Nitrate level = 5ppm * Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) = 7.4 * Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) = 7 Other Required Info: * Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? = API drop kit * Water temperature? = 15 degrees C * Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? = 17L and 2 years. * What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? = No idea sorry. * How often do you change the water and how much? = 50% every 3 days. * How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? = Today 70% * How many fish in the tank and their size? = 2 commons, both 2 inches. * What kind of water additives or conditioners? = Tetra contrachlorine. * What do you feed your fish and how often? = Alternate between Tetra goldfish flakes, Hikari pellets and peas with one days of fasting each week. I soak the flakes and pellets before hand and cook and deshell the peas. * Any new fish added to the tank? = No * Any medications added to the tank? = No * List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank. Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. * Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? = One fin is a little bent. * Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? I inherited 2 fish a year ago and they have been having troubles since day one with constipation. I changed their diet to incorporate peas twice a week and a day of fasting. I also upgraded them to a new 70L tank. A few weeks ago Kakashi (who has been having the most trouble) started getting floaty after meals. The bigger tank has a lot of surface movement and he was just being tossed around, so I moved them both back to the smaller tank (which I had kept cycled in case I ever needed it as a QT). I starved for 3 days and fed peas for 3 days several times over the last few weeks, but he would also be very floaty an hour or so after eating, even with the peas. He would remain floaty for hours, and took to sitting at the top of the tank. He would be floaty when I went to bed, and when I woke up the next morning, but be swimming around normally when I came home. When I didn't feed them he was fine, but I can't just starve him indefinitely. He also seems to have lost weight, but it's difficult to tell, and is have trouble swimming (he is much slower that Iruka), but he can still get around. Today I found him bottom sitting, so did an 70% water change. He did perk up a little after that, but seems to have trouble staying afloat and keeps going to the bottom. His fins aren't clamped, and he does get excited whenever I approach the tank. I'm worried he has SBD, so tomorrow I will do another WC. Should I move Iruka back into the big tank? They don't like being seperated, but I worry that the extra fish is just causing more stress and Iruka is fine. I'll be away from home tonight, so there's not really much I can do until tomorrow (I'm a terrible person for abandoning them, I know, but it is unavoidable). I don't think Kakashi is on death's door just yet, but he's only gotten worse despite my efforts. My friend suggested feeding bloodworms and treating with aquarium salt, but she's not a goldfish keeper so I wanted to get a more experiences opinion. I'm sorry, I only ever seem to post here when I need help, but I don't really feel qualified to be giving others advice.
  11. To people who live/have lived in Japan, What do you feed your goldfish. Mine were on hikari floating pellets, then I changed to Tetra flakes. I pre-soak the flakes so they sink, but the fish have a habit of searching the top for food now. I'm battling and on-going constipation problem, in that, whenever I feed my fish flakes 2 days in a row, they have constipation and I need to feed them peas. I'm not sure feeding them only peas is a viable solution, but I don't want to continue with a food they clearly are happy with. What do people feed their goldfish. I read the food thread, but a lot of the suggestions were things I have no idea how to get. I can get fresh veggies, but are these nutritious enough for them? I live in a very rural area, it's rice paddy central, so my options are limited. (My Japanese also sucks, which doesn't really help either). My closest big city is Sendai, but that's a few hours away. Any help would be awesome! If you could give me the kanji/pictures that would rock! Thanks!
  12. My first goldfish I won on a funfair when I was 8 or 9, both me and my brother won one common. They lived in seperate ice creams tubs for a while, my mum would buy an aquatic plant from a pet shop near her work every couple of weeks. Then my nanna gave us a bowl and they both lived together in that, completely neglected save daily feedings and my mum's contribution of plant life. Mine died after about 4 years and my brother's lasted about 3 and a half. Thankfully for the fish, that marked the end of our goldfish hobby, which was probably a good thing at the time. Now I have 2 commons who were dumped on me by a friend who left the country and didn't know what to do with them. This time I educated myself, joined this awesome forum and am learning to be a good goldfish mummy. No more bowls! I'll also be leaving the country in a year or so, so unfortunately I can't keep them.
  13. I removed 50% when I stirred up the gravel. Previously I was stirring up the gravel with the thermometre and then using a jug to try and get as much of the debris out as possible. This was really inefficient, so I got a siphon and today was the first time I've used it. Should I remove more water? I'm not moving the gravel to the new tank as it is too small anyway, so I bought bigger gravel. Since it's so big, I only bought enough to nearly cover the bottom, as another pack would have made the gravel too deep and I only got it because they seem to like poking around in the gravel so much and I want to try and train them out of the idea that food is on the surface. Especially since the new tank came without a lid (though I am looking into hand fashioning one somehow) I'm going to set up the new tank tomorrow. I was intending to do it today, but I've got a cold atm, which came with a cough that keeps me up at night so I fell asleep after getting home from work,
  14. Update - This morning I noticed one of them resting on the bottom again (he moved when I did so I have no idea which one it was, sorry). I also noticed that Iruka had trailing faeces both this morning and earlier this evening, though it was only a few millimeters rather than the several centimeter ones he was having. They have been starved since Saturday night, so I fed them 1 pea tonight and made sure both of them got some. I then did my 50% water change. I recently bought a gravel siphon since the gravel was really dirty, and still is actually, but I'm working on it. During the water change they were both trying to eat what I stirred up and then Kakashi did a poo which started clear and bubbly, but turn brown. It was only really small, so I wouldn't call it trailing, but did take him several minutes to pass. Is this normal? They both do spend a lot of time at the surface. I believe they are searching for food rather than gasping, since they will spend 5-10 minutes at the surface and then go to the bottom and repeat. Could this be contributing to their contipation? I know air is bad, but they've always been fed floating food so have a habit of gulping at the top to find some. They are both active, eating well and look fine. Maybe Iruka is a little bloated, but I could just be being paranoid. When I look at him from the front, he doesn't stick out. I tried to take a picture, but they get mental whenever I approach the tank so it's hard to get more than an orange blur. I will keep trying.
  15. Glad I'm not the only one, though I worry about all my pets obsessively. I'm just more prone to totally panic over my fish because I'm so inexperienced. I've been looking into how to move them, but I will ask around some more to get it just right. Today when I woke up they were both floating close to the bottom, but not bottom sitting. They seem to do this at night, so I assume they are sleeping. When I came home, they were aimlessly swimming around until the saw me and went crazy. Now they are alternating between searching for food and staring at me in the hopes I'll feed them. I've seen no faeces at all this last 2 days, so am thinking of giving them a pea to share tomorrow evening. Thanks for the help, I'm looking into a more varied diet for them so this doesn't happen again. They've probably been fed too much processed food, which is my fault for just following the previous owner's instructions. She kept guppies in the past, and I think she applied the same rules to goldfish, hence the small tank. When I asked her about how often to do water changes, she told me she didn't bother so much with the water because she never bothered with her guppies and they lived for 4 years, but her dad did frequent water changes and his died within 2 years. She did love them, but just didn't bother to learn about them. At that point I realised I needed to get help from people who kept goldfish. It makes me sad when people don't bother to learn about how to care for pets properly.
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