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  1. Yes, goldfish normally have flukes, but the immune system system of healthy goldfish keeps the fluke population under control. We know that healthy fish that have lived together in a tank or pond long term share the same strain of flukes and have an immunity to those flukes. They do not, however, have immunity to the flukes of healthy goldfish from another pond. Thus we recommend treating new fish with prazi during quarantine. Your fish look healthy to me. The symptoms of flukes include "itchiness" -- the fish rub against things. The fish might develop little pustules at sites of fluke attachment. I can't find the active ingredients of JBL gyrodol, so I can't recommend it. Incidentally, none of my goldfish have been treated for flukes nor have they ever shown fluke symptoms.
  2. You can find lots of current research on the food value of hydrolyzed feather meal, like this example: https://scialert.net/fulltext/?doi=jfas.2013.697.705
  3. Is this the orange stuff they started offering last summer? I bought some of that and mixed it with the small and medium Max growth pellets (which cost half as much). After a while I began noticing that everything that the water passed through was getting clogged with gummy sticky orange slime which was hard to remove from filter medium even with a strong blast from a garden hose. I went back to just max growth and the slime went away. I tossed the rest of the orange food on the compost pile. Sinking food is the new koi feeding fad after most people realized that the previous fad of feeding high carb, low protein food when the water was so cold the fish could only digest a little bit of food a day was insane. At least sinking food is harmless to the fish unless you get too much decay in the filters. No matter what kind of food you toss in, more than they can eat in a minute or two is excessive.
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    Require Emergency help

    Please read our guidelines for healthy goldfish. While it almost certainly won't help this fish, it will help you care for the next.
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    Is my girl pregnant?

    No way duckweed will take over a goldfish tank. If you put all of the duckweed in your tank today, you would have to buy some more tomorrow, since the fish will have eaten it all. If you had only tiny fish with mouths too small to eat duckweed, it could take over, but not with goldfish larger than feeder size. Get a tub for the duckweed (a plastic storage tote works fine) and feed the duckweed with the water you remove from the tank when you do a water change. If you don't have a sunny spot for the duckweed tub, get a grow light for a lamp to provide light for the duckweed plants.
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    Fish impacted with leaf?

    Could you please show some pictures of the pond? It sounds like an in-ground pond that lies lower than the surrounding ground. Do you have a net over the pond to catch leaves? What protection do you have from predators? Your stocking level sounds great, but the number of fish may double or more after spring spawning. With a large pond with few adult fish, more eggs survive to hatch and more fry avoid getting eaten by their elders.
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    Looking good? and food questions

    And have any of those sources given evidence to support their statements? Most of the articles you read have been copied from other articles. If you compare them you will see what sources people used when you see exactly the same sentences in multiple articles. You may have observed that Koko's is one of the few forums in which we ask people to provide evidence for their statements.
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    Fish impacted with leaf?

    I don't think a leaf could cause this problem. I suspect whatever ails him is the cause, not the result, of the unswallowed leaf.
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    Hi guys .... quick catch up!!

    As bad as they look, surface tumors don't bother fish much. You will probably see more. One can surgically remove these, but they will probably return. I had a beautiful fish develop a tumor when about 8 years old. With time, she got more, but didn't seem bothered. After a couple of years some tumors developed bloody lesions, which I assume indicated malignancy. By this time she no longer appeared comfortable, and I finally decided to euthanize.
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    Looking good? and food questions

    Why do you not like floating? Other than live plants, floating pellets foul the water less than any other form of food. The fish grab them quickly before any nutrients have a chance to leach since only a bit of the pellets get wet. You can easily determine whether all get eaten. Sinking pellets leach nutrients rapidly and can wind up hidden in the bottom of the tank rotting. Gel foods lead in water fouling. Goldfish tear into the soft gel swallowing what they can and leaving bits scattering through the water. These rapidly decompose in the water and the filter. Some people here have observed filter clogging and water quality deterioration with gel foods.
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    Is my girl pregnant?

    What does "head to tail" mean? (People often say this.) Standard length (a meaningful measure of goldfish length) means tip of the nose to the base of the tail fin. Total length means tip of the nose to end of the tail fin. It gives no useful information on the amount of fish you have since goldfish tails have such variability. Either one could be "head to tail."
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    test

    Please remove the word "fill" after "copy and paste." I also add "If copy and paste doesn't work for you, quote this post and put your answers after each question." Otherwise, those who can't copy and paste put their answers in paragraph form, and we know how much fun reading that is.
  13. To treat a fish with medications containing an antibiotic, remove the fish to a "hospital tank." A ten gallon aquarium or plastic storage box will do. Treat the fish according to instructions. Keep the water safe with large water changes. If you add an antibacterial agent to your filtered tank, you will kill off filter nitrifiers. You can, however, treat the whole tank with an antiparasitic like praziquantel. If you think that you must treat all of the fish, first remove your filter medium and hold it in dechlorinated water until you complete the treatment. Maintain water quality with daily water changes. Test your water daily.
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    Open Chat :)

    I got a beautiful pair of calico fantails from Walmart a year and a half ago and put them and a couple of home-grown orange youngsters in my indoor aquaponics system. I think they are least great and maybe great-great grandparents now. I try to avoid checking out the fish at Walmart, since I certainly don't need more.
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    Looking good? and food questions

    I feed exclusively Blackwater Creek Max Growth Koi and goldfish food. Foster and Smith have really good prices. I used to get the medium pellets for my large goldfish and the small ones for the younger fish, but I got lazy and feed them all the small pellets, (about as big as medium goldfish pellets). My fish grow huge. You have some fine healthy-looking fish.
  16. No, it won't. You can't feed anything better for their digestion than duckweed.
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    Events in Orlando

    The Orlando Area Koi and Pond Club has lots of goldfish people and meets monthly at member's houses (except for July and August when it's too hot and March when we have the Koi and Goldfish show). Unfortunately, the November meeting was last weekend and it sounds like you will leave before the December meeting. You might try to schedule a visit to Blackwater Creek Koi (and goldfish) Farm which has the most beautiful goldfish you have ever seen.
  18. A filter serves two functions. Water goes through sponges/filter mats/floss -- mechanical filtration -- which collect debris. Then it goes through the biomedium -- bioballs/ ceramic rings/lava rocks etc. These provide a home for the nitrifiers that convert ammonia to nitrate, using a lot of oxygen in the process. If you dump the dirty water and rinse the media on a regular basis, the nitrifiers and the fish get clean water and adequate oxygen. If you don't clean the crud that collects in the mechanical medium, it rots by the action of decomposing bacteria. This process requires oxygen, so the action of the nitrifiers slows since they don't get as much oxygen. Also debris gets into the biomedium which can clog the biomedium, decreasing the availability of oxygen and ammonia to the nitrifiers. To keep the filter clean, dump the water from your filter and vigorously rinse the crud from your filter container and the mechanical medium when you change water. Then use some of the water you removed from the tank to rinse crud from the biomedium. Also, please ignore the advice given by the makers of the filter and medium about replacing your filter medium -- AKA decimating your nitrifiers. Mechanical medium receiving regular cleaning will keep working for a few years, and biomedium at least a decade.
  19. Guidelines are recommendations by experienced goldfish keepers for those of lesser (or no) experience. They are not the only way of keeping goldfish, or even the best, but are our compromise between ideal conditions for goldfish and the space, time, and money limitations of the goldfish hobbyist. Koko’s guidelines are continually reviewed and updated as needed by the moderating team as we gain new information from research and experience. Tank Your tank should be large enough to provide at least 20 gallons (76 liters) for each goldfish. This is true for both long-bodied and fancy goldfish. While baby goldfish can do well in a smaller tank short term, they grow very fast, so we recommend starting them in their grown-up tank. If you provide less than 20 gallons per adult fish, you should increase the amount of water changed to maintain water quality. The ideal tank for goldfish is shallow with a large surface area. Tall tanks should be avoided if possible. Filters The most common filters for goldfish tanks are HOBs (hang on the back) or canisters. We recommend a HOB filter be rated by the manufacturer as turning over at least 10 times the tank volume per hour. Thus a HOB filter for a 20 gallon (76L) tank should turn over at least 200 gph (760 lph). If one has multiple HOBs the turnover rates should add up to at least 10x the tank volume per hour. Canisters have more filter volume, and we recommend they turn over at least 5-7 times the tank volume per hour. We do not recommend internal filters for goldfish. There are many other types of filters, including many DIY filters. If you are using any of these, please start a thread in the Water Quality forum to ask if your particular filter is appropriate for your set up and your fish load. Water Changes We recommend a minimum of a 50% water change each week. This assumes that you are meeting the recommendations for tank size and filtration. If (for example) you have one fish per 10 gallons (38L), you should do a minimum of two 50% changes per week. Aeration Aeration is not usually needed if your tank and filter(s) are large enough for your fish load, the water surface area is large enough to provide good gas exchange, (a minimum of 2 ft2 (1858 sq cm) per goldfish) and the fish are healthy. Even then, adding aeration is generally beneficial. We will often recommend adding aeration when treating sick fish. Heaters Goldfish are called “cold water” fish, not because they require cold water, but because they do not require heated tanks like tropicals. Generally, healthy goldfish prefer the same temperatures as we do and are happy at room temperature (including a cooler night temperature). However, we may recommend heating the tank when treating sick fish, so it is useful to have a heater available. Substrate Goldfish tanks may have no substrate, sand, or gravel. We recommend that hospital and quarantine tanks have no substrate for ease and completeness of cleaning. If one uses sand or gravel in the main tank, the layer should be no more than ½ inch thick. Gravel should be either small enough that the fish can easily swallow it or too large to fit in the fish's mouth. Ornaments Avoid hollow ornaments. The water in these can become anaerobic and produce toxins. Avoid ornaments that have sharp points or spaces that can trap a goldfish. Salt We do not recommend routine use of salt in a goldfish tank. Salt is a valuable, gentle medication which will lose some of its value if it is in the water on a regular basis. Quarantine We recommend quarantining all new fish for at least a month before introducing them to the “old” fish. During this quarantine period, we treat with salt and praziquantel. Tank mates Goldfish do best with other goldfish as their tank mates. Most other fish are likely to harm and/or be harmed by goldfish. Please ask about their suitability before adding any other kind of fish to your tank. Even fish that get on well in a goldfish tank, such as bristle nose or rubber lip plecos, or even large snails, produce waste. So adding these reduces the number of goldfish your tank can support. Here are some articles with additional information about keeping goldfish. http://www.kokosgold...m/tensteps.html http://www.kokosgold...RNEWOWNERS.html Click here to view the article
  20. Guidelines are recommendations by experienced goldfish keepers for those of lesser (or no) experience. They are not the only way of keeping goldfish, or even the best, but are our compromise between ideal conditions for goldfish and the space, time, and money limitations of the goldfish hobbyist. Koko’s guidelines are continually reviewed and updated as needed by the moderating team as we gain new information from research and experience. Tank Optimally, your tank should be large enough to provide at least 20 gallons for each goldfish, with a minimum of 15 gallons per fish. This is true for both long-bodied and fancy goldfish. While baby goldfish can do well in a smaller tank short term, they grow very fast, so we recommend starting them in their grown-up tank. The ideal tank for goldfish is shallow with a large surface area. Tall tanks should be avoided if possible. Filters The most common filters for goldfish tanks are HOBs (hang on the back) or canisters. We recommend a HOB filter be rated by the manufacturer as turning over at least 10 times the tank volume per hour. Thus a HOB filter for a 20 gallon tank should turn over at least 200 gph. If one has multiple HOBs the turnover rates should add up to at least 10x the tank volume per hour. Canisters have more filter volume, and we recommend they turn over at least 5-7 times the tank volume per hour. There are many other types of filters, including many DIY filters. If you are using any of these, please start a thread in the Water Quality forum to ask if your particular filter is appropriate for your set up and your fish load. Water Changes We recommend a minimum of a 50% water change each week. This assumes that you are meeting the recommendations for tank size and filtration. Aeration Aeration is not usually needed if your tank and filter(s) are large enough for your fish load, the water surface area is large enough to provide good gas exchange, and the fish are healthy. Even then, adding aeration is generally beneficial. We will often recommend adding aeration when treating sick fish. Heaters Goldfish are called “cold water” fish, not because they require cold water, but because they do not require heated tanks like tropicals. Generally, healthy goldfish prefer the same temperatures as we do and are happy at room temperature (including a cooler night temperature). However, we may recommend heating the tank when treating sick fish, so it is useful to have a heater available. Substrate Goldfish tanks may have no substrate, sand, or gravel. We recommend that hospital and quarantine tanks have no substrate for ease and completeness of cleaning. If one uses sand or gravel in the main tank, the layer should be no more than ½ inch thick. Gravel should be either small enough that the fish can easily swallow it or too large to fit in the fish's mouth. Ornaments Avoid hollow ornaments. The water in these can become anaerobic and produce toxins. Avoid ornaments that have sharp points or spaces that can trap a goldfish. Salt We do not recommend routine use of salt in a goldfish tank. Salt is a valuable, gentle medication which will lose some of its value if it is in the water on a regular basis. Quarantine We recommend quarantining all new fish for at least a month before introducing them to the “old” fish. During this quarantine period, we treat with salt and praziquantel. Tank mates Goldfish do best with other goldfish as their tank mates. Most other fish are likely to harm and/or be harmed by goldfish. Please ask about their suitability before adding any other kind of fish to your tank. Even fish that get on well in a goldfish tank, such as bristle nose or rubber lip plecos, or even large snails, produce waste. So adding these reduces the number of goldfish your tank can support. Here are some articles with additional information about keeping goldfish. http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/tensteps.html http://www.kokosgoldfish.com/BRIEFGUIDEFORNEWOWNERS.html
  21. Please start by reading our "Guidelines for healthy goldfish". You will need a larger tank as your fish grow. Since you have ammonia in your tap water, you should consider multiple smaller water changes rather than one large change a week. You don't want to raise the ammonia level when you do a water change. Prime can protect the fish from up to 1ppm ammonia/nitrite. This protection only lasts a day, so you need to dose Prime for the full tank volume every day. Prime does not affect the results of your ammonia test. It converts the highly toxic ammonia to the much less toxic ammonium. Your test measures "total ammonia" ammonium plus ammonia, so converting one form to the other will not change your reading. When you read the guidelines, you will see that we recommend a minimum of a weekly 50% water change, but that assumes you have adequate filtration provide at least 20 gallons of water per fish. You will remove about the same amount of waste from the tank doing 10% changes daily, 20% every other day, or 25% three days a week. " I didn't want to start there (not to mention all the debate on BB and Antimicrobials." Tell me about this "debate." Do you find people who believe that antibiotics selectively kill bad bacteria? Put antibiotics in the tank, you will get ammonia and nitrite readings in a previously cycled tank. Even after you stop treatment, you get to do lots of large water changes before the population of nitrifiers gets restored to "fully cycled" levels. The first advice we give for treating sick fish is to remove them to a "hospital tank" and maintain it's water quality with large (preferably 100%) daily water changes. I use a underbed tote like this for a hospital tank. Actually, I use two of them and use the "bucket to bucket" method of 100% daily water changes.
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    Open Chat :)

    You are having a really hard time! Hang in there. We are all cheering for you.
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    Pudgster's Tail

    I believe the red streaks in the tail are from stress from the ammonia spike rather than from an infection. Please copy and paste the form A.M. gave you above and type your answers to each question ON THE FORM. You need to change at least 50% of the water daily. When you do this, please add Seachem Prime water conditioner, using the dose for the full volume of your tank. Prime will protect your fish from up to 1 ppm ammonia/nitrite. You have learned from experience why we always recommend removing a sick fish to a separate container (plastic storage totes work fine) before you medicate them, particularly with antibiotics which kill nitrifiers even better than pathogens. I wouldn't bother with salt or useless bottled bacteria -- just Prime and lots of water changes. 5
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    Wakins

    Many describe these lovely fish as very vigorous, but I have far longer survival in my fancies than in the wakin. I have often seen people report a healthy spawn of wakins only to disappoint those who were eager to buy them when they all died a month later.
  25. "This type of goldfish is called Deme Suihougan in Japanese. i would like to introduce this in English. so please let me know. Bubble Eye Demekin is correct?" Not quite complete since that name doesn't indicate the lack of a dorsal fin. Maybe a "telescope bubble eye ranchu"?
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