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Milo Burnham

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  1. So somebody started a "fess-up" forum. Good idea and a great place to learn from the mistakes of others. The dumbest thing I did was to put 4 newly purchased goldfish in the pond without quarantining them. The fish looked great when purchased and for the first couple of days in the pond. Things then turned sour and went from bad to worse. Before it was over, if it is even after a couple of years, it cost me a lot of fish and over $1000 for medicine and new equipment. The main problem was flukes that came in on the new fish and spread to everything in the pond. The flukes weakened the fish and opened them to bacterial infections.. I had to finally take out all the fish and chlorox the pond. Buy fish only from a reputable dealer and even then quarantine them. I use 30 gallon garbage cans and quarantine the fish for about 6 weeks before putting them in a pond. I don't swap fish between ponds and have cut back on buying and am now raising my own replacements.
  2. Koko, this was Elvis, one of my favorites and yes, a red cap. He (in reality, she) came from vvvv in Tupelo, Missississippi (the birth place of Elvis) a couple of years ago. I must have gotten her late in life as she was never truly well and frisky. I just couldn't walk away that day and leave her in the tank. While she is no longer in the pond, she is still with me; in a block of ice, in the freezer, behind the lamb chops I think. Thought you'd enjoy that. I've had some great goldfish so far, and I hope there are more in my future.
  3. Oranda comet? I've raised a couple of plain tailed, long bodied (off type rejects) orandas that have a small wen. I guess they could pass as an oranda comet if such a thing existed. Personally, I don't think they look all that good but for some reason I saved them.
  4. Hey, I'm not quitting, just taking some time off from raising little goldfish. The goldfish are still fun and I love them. Right now I've got more goldfish in the ponds and in a garbage can in the garage than I've ever had. But in the future it is going to be oranda to oranda and ranchu to ranchu and no mixing. If somehow they manage to cross, it's caviar for everyone. Thanks for your comments here and those in the obit- forum. It's good to be back on after so many months.
  5. Didn't anyone make a New Year's resolution not to get involved in breeding more goldfish this year? Or is it that no one is talking about it? Well, I made the resolution. If they breed on their own in the pond and any happen to survive, that is all well and good, but I'm not fishing out eggs and feeding fry this year. In 2005 I had fish to spawn in the quarantine tank as well as the pond. I saved eggs from both. Results: from the pond I raised about 75 fry and added them back to the pond in the fall. From the quarantine tank, a mix of Ranchu, Oranda and Ryukin, it turned out that I saved several hundred eggs. I babied those fry, drove myself nuts hatching brine shrimp and fed the expensive stuff, with the end results of raising a lot of "feeder fish." Never intentionally cross or save eggs from a cross of a fish with a dorsal fin (Oranda, Ryukin) with one without (Ranchu). Almost all those fry looked like something from the "Love Canal." Remember that polluted ditch of carcinogenic and mutation causing chemicals. I had fish with humped backs, spines, spurs, twists and curves, big eyes, little eyes, tails of every configuration.Out of several hundred I think there were about 20 that actually resembled goldfish. None of those were fish without a dorsal fin. No, I'm not going to save any goldfish eggs or fry this year, but next year is just a year away.
  6. I built a frame work of pvc pipe which supports a clear vinyl cover over the pond. It sort of looks like a truncated pyramid except that it has 4 sides. The top is flat. It acts like a small greenhouse and helps to keep the water temp from dropping so much. Also, have added the submersible type of aquarium heater this year. It is set on a clay pot submersed in the pond. The pond is circular, 6 feet in diameter and 2 feet deep. So far this has been a mild winter in north Mississippi and I am still feeding the goldfish a little and the tropical waterlilies 'Tina' are still blooming. Even so, I'm anxious for spring.
  7. If you haven't met Koko you've got lots of time because she is young, young, young! I had the pleasure of meeting her at a koi/goldfish show in Ft. Lauderdale, FL back in January and she posted the pictures as proof. And, if seeing isn't believing, then ask Andrea. Milo
  8. Milo Burnham

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    First pond spawn - almost none survived as the fish in the pond ate them. In the first case where I saved eggs from the pond by removing plants with eggs on them, again almost none survived; probably a dozen or so. There are now 5 adults in the pond two years later from that effort. Lots of eggs hatched, probably over 100 but most of them were lost when fungus moved in. I don't think you'll have to worry about having too many fish with the first spawn. I've found there is a lot to learn. Now, if you want them then I'd make an effort by using methylene blue with the eggs and an air stone for water movement. I'd feed freshly hatched brine shrimp, change most of the water daily, once they are a little larger and free swimming, use a daily fungus treatment. Right now I have what appears to be hundreds of fry from one spawning on Easter Sunday. Taking care of them is wearing me out and I'm going to dump them all in to one big plastic swimming pool as soon as I can get it set up. Good luck! Milo
  9. First fry are now a month old and large enough for the first culling; ridding myself of all fry with a single tail. I'm wondering, what to do with the culled fry? It doesn't seem right to flush them nor does it seem right to just drop them on the ground. I guess I could throw them into the pond where they have a chance of getting eaten but still a chance for life but then I'd be netting them out if they survived. Dilemma! At the moment there are way too many fry to save them all and as they grow the food demands are getting more and more. I've been feeding brine shrimp and that in itself is a chore; also a big disappointment. The first tube of eggs purchased had a high percentage hatch but the next tubes seem almost dead. I'm really ticked off at the supplier. I'm trying a second supplier and hope the shrimp eggs arrive soon. In the meantime I'm feeding freeze dried daphnia and a mix of ground up freeze dried brine shrimp and blood worms. I'm doing daily 50 percent water changes using water treated with Amquel + and I'm adding Maroxy with each water change. All of this is going on in five 5-gallon buckets, each with an air stone but no filtration. I'm still waiting and almost expecting the dreaded fungus to move in but maybe I'll get lucky this year. I'm dealing with fry of 3 different ages, the oldest being from a March 27, Easter Sunday, spawning. Milo
  10. Scott, so good to see you back with us. It has been a long winter. How are the koi, job, relocation plans? Your name came up in a conversation I had with Rob at the CFKS in Orlando in mid-March. He was just crazy about the fish and I must assume you would have been also. I just love spring when every thing starts to wake up. My ponds didn't ice over this winter, but the water sure got cold. The fish just hung there for weeks in a state of sort of suspended animation. It is so good to see them actively swimming and eating. I just sit out by the pond and watch them much to the displeasure of my dog who would rather eat their food or play. He's developed quite a taste for gel food. I hope everyone has a great spring. Milo
  11. Thank you all for your compliments on the fish. Yes, the lemon heads made it through another winter in the pond. I've already decided that because of their advancing age I will bring them indoors for the 05-06 winter, providing they make it through the summer, though I've already purchased heaters for the pond. The same goes for Elvis (red cap not in pictures), whose wen is now so large that it steers her, yes, Elvis turned out to be female. The two lion head in the pictures were purchased but the red orandas are my 2003 fry. I raised only 2 oranda fry in 04 and they are still in the house. Right now I have about 24 fry from 05 that are 2 weeks old and may have some eggs from yesterday's spawning of a lemon head and a red lion head. New fish, 4 ranchu and a really nice red and white oranda purchased in Orlando last month at the CFKS will go in the pond once the weather stabilizes. Introducing new fish into the pond has always been a bad deal for me. I've a bucket of 10 day old fry from a ranchu/ryukin spawning in the quarantine tank. The UV sterilizer installed last summer has really made a difference in water clarily. I'm going to get another one for the other pond. This spring as the water warmed and the fish were beginning to move I treated the pond with nitrofurazone and prazzi and when I started feeding I fed green peas for 1 week and Medi-Gold (soaked pellets) for 2 weeks. I'm now feeding gel-food. I also did a total volume water change over a 3 day period. Andrea, I found 6 of my 12 tortoises last week and penned them up. Surprisingly the largest climbed 2 feet of vertical hardware cloth and escaped. I'll continue to look for the rest of them. Turns out 1 is the 3-toed subspecies (T. c. triunguis) with the olive shell and no pattern. Milo
  12. Thanks for the pictures and for the mention. As good as the pictures are, you really had to be there to appreciate the fish. CFKS was my second show this year and actually the second show in my life. Rob, thanks for all the time you spent with me explaining and naming. It was great to visit all the vendors, see the equipment, talk shop, and see so many great fish in one place as well as meet Rob and see Andrea again. The seminars were very informative and will be quite helpful in future pond construction. One speaker is so opposed to liner folds that he advocates cutting and piecing the liner which sounds like alot of work and chance for a million leaks but he swears by the process when it is done right. Those of you who could have gone and didn't, well, you missed it. Was well worth the 11 1/2 hour drive each way for me. Vendors did a great job of bagging fish as all my purchases made it. Great looking koi you got Rob, and Andrea I'm waiting for a picture of that new goldfish that is being shipped, was it a Ranchu by chance? Milo
  13. I'm surprised some one hasn't replied to this yet, so here goes. Some people like to maintain the water in their goldfish tanks at 0.1% which is achieved by adding 1 level tablespoon of aquarium salt or ice cream salt (rock salt) per 5 gallons of water. Do not use the standard table salt sold for home use. For medicinal purposes people use salt at a 0.3% concentration which is achieved by adding 3 tablespoons of salt per 5 gallons of water. As you noted, salt does not evaporate so if you add it several times without changing water in the tank you will quickly exceed a safe level. If you make a 25% water change and do not add more salt you reduce the salt concentration in the tank by 25%. For example, if you have a 20 gallon tank and have added 4 tablespoons of salt to establish a concentration of 0.1%, you should add 1 tablespoon of salt with every 5 gallons of water changed to maintain the 0.1% concentration. If you need to utilize the 0.3% concentration, start with 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons, 12 hours later add the second tablespoon per 5 gallons and 12 hours after that add the third tablespoon. I hope this helps. Milo
  14. Rob, as of right now, I am planning to be in Orlando for the show. Even tho I don't have a single koi, I'm gaining an appreciation. Went to the show in Ft. L. back in January; my first koi show. Fell in love with a Kujaku; watched it all weekend, but couldn't figure out a way to get it home with me. Andrea was there with husband and Julia and I got the chance to meet Koko and spend some time. Andrea brought home almost all the goldfish ribbons. Surely the pictures will eventually show up on this site. I too am much interested in Gunn's goldfish and plan to be in Orlando on Fri; driving up from Ft. L. and on my way back to MS. Have already made a hotel reservation for Fri. and Sat. Looking forward to meeting you, which could prove difficult in a large crowd since we've never met before. See you in Orlando. Hope to run into Andrea as well. Milo
  15. My two cents worth on this topic is based on personal experience; Orandas and common fantails. The Orandas have been more susceptible to problems, but not all have been equally susceptible. I think source, previous/current water conditions, body shape have a lot to do with it. In my experience, the shorter and blockier the fish, the more problems. Some fish may be OK for the finely tuned aquarium but not up to the rigors of a pond. As attractive as they are, in the future, I'm staying away from the "blocky" gf. The previous posts in this thread, I'd have to agree with. Milo
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