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  2. Agreed. Goldfish are delicate enough with shipping and normal care that it really makes the most sense to start with the healthiest stock you can rather than trying to nurse one back to health, especially with such a severe wound. The bulging is what has me concerned there is more underlying this than just a mechanical injury that didn’t heal well, and shipping could certainly exacerbate that. If it was an in person pickup there are thing you could try, but I really wouldn’t recommend spending the money and time on an animal that has a decently high likelihood of ongoing long term problems with his eye or jaw, in particular. Those are very tough to treat.
  3. Oooh, I know which breeder you are referring to. I got a fish from them at a local fish show and it had a fish louse, plus some mystery virus that took down a chunk of my tank. Sigh. Looked healthy too, but needed more vigorous and longer quarantine than what I did. Okay, good on the tap water. Unless it’s above 8.6 or so I wouldn’t personally adjust it, but did you ever check the hardness or if the pH was stable from day to day? I only ask because sometimes a high pH can still be volatile and swing quite a bit, which could be a stress factor. This fish might need more days of metro, and possibly some additional treatment. Could you use your nail to lift his gill plate under bright light and tell me what color they are? Light pink like salmon, red like raw steak, or more maroon/brown?
  4. They’re from a breeder in Chicago. I know they have imported fish, I’m not sure if these guys were imported but they probably had contact with imports. They dont claim to be “clean”, but they looked healthy in the videos I got. I would love an ECR fish but I’m terrified of killing it. Plus, the other fish I have are from petco and I’ve heard it’s not good to mix her fish with others. I am using tap water, I was just asking if RO would be easier for them to adjust to from right after shipping. Our pH is really high- like off the charts of the API test, so I use API proper pH. Ah, I will hope that this is the case. I just panicked when I saw discoloration. He’s still pretty mopey. I have him in a low-light area to keep his stress down, I feel like he sleeps most of the day. He’s more active after water changes and darts towards food which makes me feel better. He isn’t giving up yet. I haven’t noticed any thick/extra slime coat. His gills move a little fast, but he doesn’t gasp at the surface or move his mouth a lot. This fish is the one that originally needed the kanaplex/metro. It’s had two weeks of kanaplex and today is day 9 of metro, day 3 of second prazi round.
  5. Where did these fish come from? If they were from a ‘clean’ source like East Coast Ranchu I’d consider some issues with acclimation, but if they’re Chinese or Thai imports the shipping stress plus previously colonized pathogens make more sense. The black could actually be a good sign - if they were in dodgy water or has external parasites the injury sites are healing and it’s called melanophore migration. Are you seeing any heavy slime coat with this as well, or gasping? How much of the kanaplex and metroplex did this fish have? Same as the other? Have you begun the prazi again yet? I believe you mentioned you were using RO water, are you adding any minerals back into that? It’s absolutely terrible for the osmotic balance or freshwater fish if it isn’t being augmented at all, and most tap water is much safer for them with just a little dechlorination treatment. If you’re adding in a mineral supplement and buffering it you may be okay, though. Otherwise definitely transition to two water, 25% at a time each water change until you’re at 100%
  6. and of course, more problems. 😔 Now he’s got blackish brownish spots appearing. On his back and fin. He’s still interested in food but spits it out. Still sitting sideways, still has the swollen side, but I think he’s getting skinnier like behind the belly.
  7. Yesterday
  8. Yea,was a relief that I found it in time!
  9. I have to agree with Helen, I wouldn't put this fish through shipping, I think it would be too stressful and would be highly likely to die during the process i dont think it would survive without treatment, and even with could be iffy, but i really dont think it could handle the shipping either
  10. i would prefer the appropriate people offer their guidance on treatments when they stop by. i just offered my opinions based on word and photo content you shared. i personally would not put an ill fish through the rigmarole of shipping. healthy fish get beaten around during transit and some don't arrive alive, i would assume an ill fish would stand less chance of surviving shipping. if it made it and depending on what health issues it may have, we could then work out what the odds are. too hard to speculate with the little info that is available to you. an advanced opinion? if i had a fish with health like that in my care, i would consider euthanizing it. lets see what others have to say
  11. Aaaawe, Sharky! That’s cute
  12. Yikes! That was a close call!
  13. Thank you and sorry about that! This post it ended up turning out a lot different than I'd first planned, hence posting here but in hindsight I definitely agree. The owner is selling the fish and the tank so I doubt they'll be willing to do much to help it unfortunately, let alone buy another tank. What do you think it's odds of survival would be if I took it in and started treating it appropriately? And on that note, what would be the best course of action for treating it at this point?
  14. hello and welcome to kokos. it may have been better to post this topic in the 'general goldfish discussion' forum since you're not seeking medical advice at the moment, and just requesting opinions from the community as to whether you should attempt to save this goldfish or not. in my opinion, and if it were me.- i wouldn't consider it. the fish seems to have a neglected wound. the wound seems to have created an infection that has grown beyond the eye and is now affecting part of it's head. in your position, i would try to assist their current owner in bettering their living conditions, ie, buy a much bigger tank with adequate filtration. help them through the cycle process to provide a proper living environment and start treating visible symptoms of each fish. the smaller tank they're currently living in can be used as a hospital tank. or.. direct them here and they can be helped with via the moderators, disease assistants and admin.
  15. Oh gosh. That's scary. Glad you found out just in time! Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
  16. Keep in mind, this is not my fish but rather one I am thinking about taking on if I can help it so please forgive the lack of information here. There are 5 Oranda Goldfish in a (90 Litre/23 US Gallon) Aqua One AR-620, all of which range from roughly 9-17cm from tip to tail. Tank has a lot of algae buildup, particularly on corners of the tank, filter and ornaments. They were being fed at the time of photos being taken so water is quite messy- can't be sure of how often it's like that. Regardless, there's one fish slightly smaller than most of the group (is a tad bigger than the 9cm) who has two damaged eyes that look like they aren't going to make it and I'm unsure of whether or not it'd benefit from coming into my care or not. I have a 10gal hospital tank I could put it in, or if it's healthy enough and I really need to I could move my axolotl to the 10gal and put the goldfish into my 30gal until I can find it a home. I don't really have anything for you to go on aside from the information I provided and some pictures. I'd really like to know what people though about whether or not it'd survive (and recover) in it's current environment? If it looks promising I'm happy enough to leave it there as I'd have to ship it to me and wouldn't want to cause unnecessary stress but if its not likely to survive where it is I'd like to take it on and try and help.
  17. My 15g fry tank cracked today, all along the bottom. Thankfully it didn't go right through so it didn't leak. Don't know how it happened, it wasn't like that when I left for work this morning, got home to do their WC and saw the huge crack. I had a spare 15g so I set that up for them
  18. Last week
  19. Ironically, the only one left is the one that had the most obvious symptoms. :s I started the second round of Prazi last night. Hopefully he’ll start eating once it takes effect if there’s a parasite bugging him. I have RO water that I use for the saltwater tanks. For future, do you think using that when they first arrive and gradually switching to tap could make it easier on them?
  20. I’m sorry, shipping stress can make this tough, as can the fish acclimating to your new water. Sometimes a pathogen takes hold and there isn’t much for it. Definitely do a prazi round on any remaining fish, you want 3-ish total. And I wish you the best with the remaining stock!
  21. Okay, well, the orange one is dead. I think I’m just really bad at taking care of shipped fish.
  22. Drove an hour and a half to get frozen blood worms, the orange one isn’t interested and the white will grab some but spit them out. The orange one has been getting worse. Now he is bottom sitting with clamped fins and really doesn’t move much. I squirted some blood worms in his mouth with a pipet, and he hardly even wiggled. He spit the worms out too. I assume there’s a point where they can no longer spit out, but I was scared to put the pipet in too far.
  23. I was actually just coming back to update, so I saw some of the dark spots go away, so I figured I’d just wait it out before I medicated him because it seemed like he was healing. I got test strips for the water until I can afford the liquid kind and watched the water as best as I could. Then day by day everything started disappearing. He doesn’t have any more spots at all, not even the ones on his face. He’s been spotless for two days now and his behavior is so much more laid back and happy. He’s doing very well and he no longer flashes. :) Thank you very much for your help though !
  24. Do more prazi rounds, it won’t interact with the metro and kanamycin. But some of the behavior you’re describing sounds more fluke related, so this would be good to cover your bases. You can either add in prazi with your metronidazole each day, or switch to API General Cure, which has both prazi and metro in it already. If this doesn’t help I’m afraid there isn’t much more we can do with the existing symptoms. Please feel free to show me any additional pictures or videos of his behavior, and if eating doesn’t improve in a few days we may need to syringe feed him a slurry to keep his energy up
  25. Welp, couldn’t find frozen bloodworms anywhere. The LFS I got them from a couple months ago has since closed and chain stores don’t carry them. I got freeze dried ones to try but I can’t get them to sink so the fish don’t even notice their existence. They got one round of prazi for three days and then this happened so I switched to antibiotics.
  26. Test Results for the Following: Ammonia Level(Tank) less than 20 Nitrite Level(Tank) 0 Nitrate level(Tank) less than 5 Ammonia Level(Tap) less than 20 Nitrite Level(Tap) 0 Nitrate level(Tap) 0 Ph Level, Tank (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) pH around 8.4 (tho they staid for over a year now issues ) gh is really high Ph Level, Tap (If possible, KH, GH and chloramines) same as above Other Required Info: Brand of test-kit used and whether strips or drops? Jungle ammonia strips and tetra strips for pH , kh, gh, nitrites and nitrates Water temperature? 72°f Tank size (how many gals.) and how long has it been running? 55g since May but I have other smaller ones for over a year What is the name and "size of the filter"(s)? I have a HOB thats aqua-tech and the filter is for up to 60 How often do you change the water and how much? Weekly 35-50% Nid a big monthly How many days ago was the last water change and how much did you change? The other day , just above 50% How many fish in the tank and their size? 3 for now and the other 4 in separate small tanks Bc I'm setting up a bigger tank , 2-4inches What kind of water additives or conditioners? Start right , just added cleaning bacteria (I hit a cycle mess up recently and can't get everything undercontrol) What do you feed your fish and how often? Wardlys fish flakes , peas , flakes 1-2 times a day, sometimes a day is skipped. Peas are weekly to bi weekly Any new fish added to the tank? Yes and one is in a new tank Any medications added to the tank? Cleaning bacteria List entire medication/treatment history for fish and tank.Please include salt, Prazi, PP, etc and the approximate time and duration of treatment. Espom, tetra lifeguard all in one 5 day course Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt," bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? Transparent anus and bloated bum Any unusual behavior like staying at the bottom, not eating, etc.? Starting to twitch
  27. Tried to add photo but it's too large. Ammonia is less than 20 Nitrites are 0 Nitrates less than 5
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