Ph level: 6.5, used drops
~I dont have any other test results, im sorry~
Tank size: 8 gals
Filter: juwel [built in filter]
Water change: once a month
Fish in the tank: 1 large fantail, 2 small fantails, 1 small ghost carp and 1 female guppy
Water additives and conditioners: tap safe
Medication:
New fish: Ghost carp last week
Feed the fish: daphnia, flake food, pea
Usual findings: frayed fins, cloudy eyes. curling tail, white spots, a slight reddish color, constipation
Unusual behaviour: sitting on bottom, floating, gasping for air
My large blackmoor has been sat on the bottom for 2 days, and its got white spots on its tail and the tail and fins are fraying, the eyes have bulged and clouded over. He looks as though hes already dead, his black mucus is disapearing and hes turning orange. Hes not eating and looks really thin, the peas I had fed him came out completely undigested and I have noticed a few of these symptons on the other fish.
One fantail has a curling tail and the other one has cloudy eyes, any diagnosis? What can I do to help?
Full Version: Fantail Lopsided
Ph level: 6.5, used drops
~I dont have any other test results, im sorry~
Tank size: 8 gals
Filter: juwel [built in filter]
Water change: once a month
Fish in the tank: 1 large fantail, 2 small fantails, 1 small ghost carp and 1 female guppy
Water additives and conditioners: tap safe
Medication:
New fish: Ghost carp last week
Feed the fish: daphnia, flake food, pea
Usual findings: frayed fins, cloudy eyes. curling tail, white spots, a slight reddish color, constipation
Unusual behaviour: sitting on bottom, floating, gasping for air
One of the small fantails tail is slightly curled, and appears to be twisting around. There is also a strange white mark appearing at the base of the tale. The fish also appears to shake when its not swimming, could this be something serious?
~I dont have any other test results, im sorry~
Tank size: 8 gals
Filter: juwel [built in filter]
Water change: once a month
Fish in the tank: 1 large fantail, 2 small fantails, 1 small ghost carp and 1 female guppy
Water additives and conditioners: tap safe
Medication:
New fish: Ghost carp last week
Feed the fish: daphnia, flake food, pea
Usual findings: frayed fins, cloudy eyes. curling tail, white spots, a slight reddish color, constipation
Unusual behaviour: sitting on bottom, floating, gasping for air
One of the small fantails tail is slightly curled, and appears to be twisting around. There is also a strange white mark appearing at the base of the tale. The fish also appears to shake when its not swimming, could this be something serious?
Hello and 
Yes, the situation with your fish does sound serious. Sometimes fish get kinked-looking like that when they are very, very sick. Your fish are also showing a number of other signs of disease.
The first priority is to address your water quality. There are a few important issues going on here.
1) You have too many fish in too small a tank. Each goldfish needs 10 gallons of water because goldfish produce a lot more waste than other fish. You have 5 fish in 8 gallons of water -- this is a recipe for disaster.
2) You are not changing water often enough. Even in an adequately sized and filtered tank, you need to be changing 25-50% of the water per week. Once a month is not enough. Undoubtedly your water changing schedule has allowed the level of toxins and bacteria to get very high. At the same time, the pH may be in the process of falling. 6.5 is dangerously low.
Here is what I would recommend that you do while you are waiting for an experienced moderator to come along to help you. Go to your local grocery or hardware store right away. Buy a 30 gallon Rubbermaid storage container (they are made out of clear plastic and costs $10-12). Fill the Rubbermaid with water that is as close as possible to the same temperature as the water in the tank (just use your finger to test). Treat the water with a conditioner/dechlorinator. Transfer all the fish into this temporary container. It will be much easier to keep the water clean enough when there is 30 gallons instead of 8 gallons. If you have an air stone or bubble wand, you can put it in the Rubbermaid.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Yes, the situation with your fish does sound serious. Sometimes fish get kinked-looking like that when they are very, very sick. Your fish are also showing a number of other signs of disease.
The first priority is to address your water quality. There are a few important issues going on here.
1) You have too many fish in too small a tank. Each goldfish needs 10 gallons of water because goldfish produce a lot more waste than other fish. You have 5 fish in 8 gallons of water -- this is a recipe for disaster.
2) You are not changing water often enough. Even in an adequately sized and filtered tank, you need to be changing 25-50% of the water per week. Once a month is not enough. Undoubtedly your water changing schedule has allowed the level of toxins and bacteria to get very high. At the same time, the pH may be in the process of falling. 6.5 is dangerously low.
Here is what I would recommend that you do while you are waiting for an experienced moderator to come along to help you. Go to your local grocery or hardware store right away. Buy a 30 gallon Rubbermaid storage container (they are made out of clear plastic and costs $10-12). Fill the Rubbermaid with water that is as close as possible to the same temperature as the water in the tank (just use your finger to test). Treat the water with a conditioner/dechlorinator. Transfer all the fish into this temporary container. It will be much easier to keep the water clean enough when there is 30 gallons instead of 8 gallons. If you have an air stone or bubble wand, you can put it in the Rubbermaid.
Good luck and keep us posted.
the ph of 6.5 is a bit low for goldfish, has it always been that way? U need to test for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate, since u r overstocked those readings could be quite high. I would start off with a very large water change. Take some of ur water to an lfs, they should be able to test it for u, and make sure u get exact numbers. U should also b changing the water once a week, more like every few days because ur tank is big enough for not even 1 fish. They also arent compatible with tropical fish, maybe u could get a large rubermaid and put the goldfish in there until u can get a bigger tank of at least 30 gallons. Sounds like ur fish have ich and finrot. U can use aquarium salt to get rid of the ich, if u dont know how to do that just ask, i have to go now cuz im at school so im sure someone else will help u out more soon.
Hi again -- It works best if you stick with one thread -- that way you don't get repetitive answers and people don't get confused.
Here is the reply that I made to your other post:
Hello and
Yes, the situation with your fish does sound serious. Sometimes fish get kinked-looking like that when they are very, very sick. Your fish are also showing a number of other signs of disease. The black moor's symptoms sound like a pH crash, among other things.
The first priority is to address your water quality. There are a few important issues going on here.
1) You have too many fish in too small a tank. Each goldfish needs 10 gallons of water because goldfish produce a lot more waste than other fish. You have 5 fish in 8 gallons of water -- this is a recipe for disaster.
2) You are not changing water often enough. Even in an adequately sized and filtered tank, you need to be changing 25-50% of the water per week. Once a month is not enough. Undoubtedly your water changing schedule has allowed the level of toxins and bacteria to get very high. At the same time, the pH may be in the process of falling. 6.5 is dangerously low.
Here is what I would recommend that you do while you are waiting for an experienced moderator to come along to help you. Go to your local grocery or hardware store right away. Buy a 30 gallon Rubbermaid storage container (they are made out of clear plastic and costs $10-12). Fill the Rubbermaid with water that is as close as possible to the same temperature as the water in the tank (just use your finger to test). Treat the water with a conditioner/dechlorinator. Transfer all the fish into this temporary container. It will be much easier to keep the water clean enough when there is 30 gallons instead of 8 gallons. If you have an air stone or bubble wand, you can put it in the Rubbermaid.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Here is the reply that I made to your other post:
Hello and
Yes, the situation with your fish does sound serious. Sometimes fish get kinked-looking like that when they are very, very sick. Your fish are also showing a number of other signs of disease. The black moor's symptoms sound like a pH crash, among other things.
The first priority is to address your water quality. There are a few important issues going on here.
1) You have too many fish in too small a tank. Each goldfish needs 10 gallons of water because goldfish produce a lot more waste than other fish. You have 5 fish in 8 gallons of water -- this is a recipe for disaster.
2) You are not changing water often enough. Even in an adequately sized and filtered tank, you need to be changing 25-50% of the water per week. Once a month is not enough. Undoubtedly your water changing schedule has allowed the level of toxins and bacteria to get very high. At the same time, the pH may be in the process of falling. 6.5 is dangerously low.
Here is what I would recommend that you do while you are waiting for an experienced moderator to come along to help you. Go to your local grocery or hardware store right away. Buy a 30 gallon Rubbermaid storage container (they are made out of clear plastic and costs $10-12). Fill the Rubbermaid with water that is as close as possible to the same temperature as the water in the tank (just use your finger to test). Treat the water with a conditioner/dechlorinator. Transfer all the fish into this temporary container. It will be much easier to keep the water clean enough when there is 30 gallons instead of 8 gallons. If you have an air stone or bubble wand, you can put it in the Rubbermaid.
Good luck and keep us posted.
QUOTE(supercollider @ May 26 2008, 06:14 PM) 
Fish in the tank: 1 large fantail, 2 small fantails, 1 small ghost carp and 1 female guppy
New fish: Ghost carp last week
New fish: Ghost carp last week
I see that Acupunk is taking care of you and giving great advice. I will only add that carp need to be in a pond and are totally unsuited to being housed in such a tiny space; they grow very large and have an enormous waste output.
Your goldies really need 30gals to be happy and the guppy really needs a different environment and should be kept with tropicals.
It sounds as if your carp has brought in parasites which will need treating with salt. The best thing you can do after making a very large water change is to get yourself a test-kit (droppers not strips) and a lot more space; that way, you will be able to keep on top of the water much more easily.
Let us know how things shape up and we can help you with the salting directions.
To heal your fish youwill need to keep the water perfect - that means, zero ammonia/nitrIte, below 40 nitrAte (below 20 ideally) and a PH above 7.0.
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