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Goldfish22

Ammonia Level? 0.00ppm
Nitrite Level? dont know
Nitrate level? dont know
Ph Level, (If possible,KH and GH and chloramines)? dont know
Ph Level out of the Tap? dont know
Tank size (How many Gals) and How long has it been running? 20 gallons a few months
What is the name and size of the filter/s? Whisper filter size large, 15-20gal
How often do you change the water and how much? full water change once a week
How many fish in the tank and their size? 1 goldfish he is about 7 inch or so
What kind of water additives or conditioners?stress coat and tap water conditioner
Any medications added to the tank? no
Add any new fish to the tank?no
What do you feed your fish? tetra fish flakes
Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt",
bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? fungus and frayed fins
Any unusual behavior like staying
at the bottom, not eating, ect..? nope he's acting like his usual self thankfully!

I have been trying my hardest to get rid of this disease and i need somthing that will destroy it once and for all! I need any recomondations on how to get rid of this,here are some pics I took sorry if they are kind of blurry there from a phone


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Fishmerised
Hi, awesome cloud pics btw!

I couldn't see any fungus on your fish, only some minor fraying to the tail. I could see some white blurs on his tail and I think these are viral bumps that come and go of themselves. No one knows why.

I would suggest an investment in test kits for pH and nitrItes as a necessity and post back the results. Water quality can cause fin fraying, such as high pH or other inbalances. Also, it shouldn't be necessary to do a full tank water change each week, this could actually cause more problems then it fixes. Try doing 50% change each week and rinse the filter media in used tank water each week to keep free from too much gunk.

While you are shopping for test kits, I suggest picking up some aquarium salt (or rock salt). Once we have established your water parameters are good it may be helpful to salt the tank.
Goldfish22
thanks:)
hi-d
sorry I have nothing to offer but just wanted to say what a beautiful fish that is ..I love the long flowing fins biggrin.gif
Goldfish22
thanks, yeah i just added melafix and pimafix in my tank so i am going to see what happens... i am beginning to think it might be ich or somthing? i need a better camera to show you guys,but i hope for the best. So does salting the tank get rid of fungus and fin rot, or how does that work?

Thanks in advance smile.gif
hi-d
does your fish look like someone sprinkled sugar or salt on him ? than he may have ick...
Goldfish22
its more just on the ends of his tail and there are very faint whiteish grayish spots on the middle of his tail i am stumped on what this is because it seems like its fungus but I just cant tell krazy.gif
Trinket
These look like the white streaks that result from poor water quality. The best cure is sustained water maintenance. Try to get your Mom to buy you some water test kits as its likely one of the readings is off.

An 80% water change every day for a week should perk him up and some good vitamin C type foods will help too. New goldfish food carries more vitamins than old and all goldfish food should be chucked after 3-6 months as nutritional value is lost. No meds will work in less than perfect water and the best meds here I think anyway is perfect water, no ammonia, no nitrites, low nitrates, & stable pH.

As Fishmerised says when the water readings are good if the fish still look the same you can try salt. There's a link in my sig how to do that.
Goldfish22
cool thanks! I will take a look at that, and one more thing what can i do to keep my ammonia level down I cleaned my tank about 2 days ago and already the ammonia is up! I have a filter running and everything and I make sure I don't feed him to much.. any ideas?
hi-d
you need to waterchange everyday until your tank has cycled and has established benifical bacteria that breaks down the waste itself..which can take over a month smile.gif that is why it is soo important to have a test kit so you know where your cycle is at
Pixiefish
"that is why it is soo important to have a test kit so you know where your cycle is at"

Exactly right. It is not a good idea to add meds like Melafix/Pimafix before knowing all your readings (amm, n'ite, n'ate, PH) Adding meds to toxic water parameters will only make things worse.

The first port of call is to get the water bang on and then it is much easier to determine if there is a need for treatments of any kind. Most often, perfect water and a little salt is all that's needed smile.gif
Ranchugirl
How are things, Goldfish22? smile.gif
Goldfish22
its been ok, I have been keeping my water nice and clean and it doesn't seem to be getting any worse, Im still planning on getting a test kit. I already have an ammonia suction cup thing that sticks to the side of the tank and that has helped me alot with keeping my water under control. so far so good

Thanks for asking though:) Oh and one question: does salting help clear up finrot? I know i will have to do a water test before salting but would that help?

thanks
Pixiefish
Well, it's very important that you get a kit and know what is happening with your water on a daily basis. 'Clean' water does not necessarily mean 'safe' water.
Salting will help with finrot but unless your water chemistry is right it is not going to fix things.

Perfect water then salt.

If you decide to salt, you must follow the instructions very carefully - scroll back to Trinket's response and click on the salt link under her signature.
Goldfish22
ok I bought some test strips and i am going to do a full water change and then I also bought non iodized plain salt (table salt)does this sound ok? I will let you guys know what my strips read as soon as im done. And then im planning on salting the tank I read Trinkets topic on how to salt, any other tips I need?

thank you guys
Goldfish22
Chlorine: 0ppm

Nitrate: 0ppm

Hardness: 120ppm (moderate)

Ph: 7.6ppm (ideal range)

Ammonia: 0ppm
thoughtsofjoy
Hi Goldfish22,

Your test results are good, but there isn't a nitrite test. Also, strip tests are notoriously inaccurate, so even though it says 0ppm, it may not be in reality! Most of us recommend using an API drop test kit, like this one.

If your test results are accurate, you are either at the beginning or the middle of the cycle (can't tell without a nitrite test result). This part of the cycle is dangerous, because ammonia and then nitrite build to toxic levels and can seriously stress your fish. However, without ammonia and then nitrite in the water, the beneficial bacteria won't grow. So you have to do consistent daily water changes to keep the levels low, but not nonexistent. That is why it is vital to have an accurate kit-- so you can keep the water safe and cycle at the same time.
Pixiefish
non iodized plain salt (table salt) does this sound ok?

Very important - check the label very carefully. Table salt often contains very dangerous anti-caking agents.
Aquarium salt or kosher/pickling salt is best.
Goldfish22
Yep it's pure salt, it doesn't say that there is anything in it. But I have started the salting process (2nd day) hopefully this will heal my goldfish! but i have one question, how many times should I clean the tank and how much water should I clean out of it? I already know when you take out a gallon of water you need to replace it with 1 tsp of salt, so im just wondering, do I clean it with partial water changes every few days..?

thanks again
Pixiefish
QUOTE(Goldfish22 @ May 13 2008, 10:47 PM) *
how many times should I clean the tank and how much water should I clean out of it? I already know when you take out a gallon of water you need to replace it with 1 tsp of salt, so im just wondering, do I clean it with partial water changes every few days..?

thanks again


Well the amount of water you change during cyling needs to be in relation to the ammonia and nitrite readings. If they are raised you must change enough to bring them back to zero. Test the water everyday.
Example: Nitrite is 1ppm; a 50% will still leave 0.50ppm, even a 75% leaves 0.25ppm, so in this case you must change almost all and replace the salt.
It's important you get a nitrite tester - raised nitrite levels can suffocate your fish, you see.

Just wondering about the cleaning aspect - can you tell us how you clean the tank at the moment? I mean, other than vacuuming the substrate and changing water.
You should really only clean the tank once a week; wipe down the tank sides to remove brown algae, use a mini bottle-brush to clean the feed pipes of the filter and swish the filter media in removed tank water. Too much 'cleaning' of the filter media can damage the beneficial bacteriac colony, especially during cycling - so it's best to leave that alone.
Goldfish22
yeah,I usually clean only once a week and when i clean it I vacuum, wash the sides, and get all the junk that gets stuck in the filter out.
Ranchugirl
Is the finrot gone then, Goldfish22? smile.gif
NismoSkylineGTR
are these pictures taken from a phone camear?
i can't tell any visible spots or problems from the fish
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