Please I need at least 32 diff types of goldfish, I need it for a school "Personal periodic table" project. Please list some that aren't really commonly known. Nothing like just minor things like "Broadtail" but entire breeds like orandas, ryukins, etc.

Please help, and thanks.

eggfish

It is called a phoenix lol

Umm

Ranchu
Bubble Eye
Telescope
Black Moor
Oranda
Ryukin
Lionhead
Lionchu
Celestial
Jikin
Wakin
Common
Comet
Shubunkin
Pearlscale
Pearlscalemoor
Siamese Doll
Tasmaba
Watonai
Tosakin
Froghead
Fantail
Super Dragon Ball
Crescent Tail Telescope Eye
Veiltail

That is from the top of my head if I remember any more i will post them. I posted 25 varieties.

I found a few. Tosakin, oriental twintail, globe eye (which i think is different from teles and moors), wakin/jikin, and bristol/london shubbies. And I remember something about a moor with a wen is a dragon-something. Hopefully that helps a little. 32 species?! Good luck!

Hmm just remembered Demiken, crown pearl, sarasa

o.k you just know to much ...and there is 4 fish on your list that I had know idea even exsisted....

oh and can you post some pics of froghead?

Sarasa is a comet just different colouring. If we can post variations like Demiken and Crown Pearlscale i might have a few more.



Yep give me a minute it is like a bubble eye with smaller bubbles there was a thread about it a while back

This is the best pic i could find Daryl has one she might have some pics of Kermit

It is the fish in the bottom right corner

An eggfish is only a "phoenix" if it has long finnage. If it has only short finnage, it's properly called just eggfish or "maruko" or "nanking". A black moor is also not that different from a telescope as it is practically the same breed, just with black coloration.

Lionchu is just a ranchu with bigger-than-average wen growth.

"Watonai" and "Tamasabas" aren't specific breeds either. A tamasaba is merely a ryukin with a single tail while a watonai is an intermediate transitional breed somewhere between a ryukin and a fantail. A "Man Yu", however, is a specific breed that is almost the same as a Watonai in description but it is only available in calico coloration, like a shubunkin.

Speaking of which, a Bristol shubunkin is a specific breed that's distinct from other shubunkins.

Here are a couple

Are they yours? s

Pompoms!!

Oh yea! Thanks anic, that must have popped into your head, since you have one

Some of these have been mentioned but here's some more.


Black moor
Bristol Shubunkin
Bubble-eyes
Bubble eye goose head
Butterfly tail
Celestials
Curled-gill
Common
Comet
Sarasa Comet
Dragon back
Dragoneye
Dragoneyed Oranda
Edonishiki
Eggfish
Fantail
Fringtail
Frog head
Globe-eye
Goose head
High head
Jikin
Lionhead
Redcaped Lionhead
Meteor
Nymph
Oranda
Operculum
Pearlscale veiltail pompon oranda
Pompon
Phoenix
Pearlscale
Pearlscale pompon
Bubble eye pompon
Dragon eye pompon
Lion head pompon
Bubble eye pearl scale
Frog head pearl scale
Dragon eye pearl scale
Reverse gill pearl scale
Variegated pearl scale
Ranchu
Ryukin
Reversed gilled
Ribbon tail
Shubunkin
Midnight Shubunkin
swallow tail
Tiger head
Toad head
Tosakin
Tri-pod tail
Veiltail

Yes. That picture is from a year or so ago. They've grown some since then and seem to be doing well.

Edonishikis is just another word for a calico ranchu, and an operculum is not a goldfish variety - its the word for gill plates, I believe.

Sonny would it be ok if I used your picture for the poster I'm making?

Yep you are right about operculum it is the gill plate/cover

Sure. That's not a problem at all.

Also - if you wish to be TOTALLY accurate, you need to realize that many that are listed are not necessarily separate "breeds", but, instead, are varieties amongst the breeds. There are Lionheads, and then there are fish that have lion heads (where the name LionChu came from - not a recongnised breed). There are Veiltails and then there are fish with veil tails. There are Black Moors and Demekins and even some other breeds that have telescope eyes - as well as Telescope Eye fish. So.... be a bit careful what all you include if you wish to strive for accuracy.

To be TOTALLY accurate, though, is really not possible in my opinion. There are no worldwide standards - and what is recognised in one country may not be in another. What is simply a variety in one country may be given a different name and recognised as a more important (or less important) variety of a breed. It is nearly impossible - if not impossible - to sort them all out to the satisfaction of everyone.

Yes that's correct. Very impressive Ranchugirl. Edonishiki is the original Japanes word for calico ranchu.

I guess it must have been developed in Tokyo because "Edo" is the original now defunct name for Tokyo used during the feudal times when samurais ruled the land. A curious choice since these breeds were developed after WWII?

"Nishiki" is the multi-colored hand-woven fancy silk broadcloth. The word is now used to express any beautiful multi-colored object I presume...

Yeah I recently learned from Shamu23 that "Demekin", specifically means a black moor with a ryukin-type hump.

"Deme" is a slang word for "bulging eyeball" in Japanese. Kin is of course short for Kingyo, which is the word for goldfish in Japanese. Anyway demekin is a pretty generic broad term in Japan to describe any goldfish with bulging eyes whether it be moors, teles, or well...demekins. I asked Trinket and she confirmed this. It's interesting how a totally generic slang Japanese word became an official name for a very specific type of goldfish.

Imogen has 2 fish she calls Azuma Nishiki!

Really?? Isn't that like a calico ranchu with a big wen and a dorsal fin?

We definitely need to see pics!!

Since all goldfish are "Carassius auratus" no goldfish is a separate breed. But all a variety of the same breed.

Careful - you are defining SPECIES as opposed to BREED - and VARIETY (within a breed)

Azumanishiki = fancified name for a Calico oranda

In the book Fancy Goldfish, they say that Azuma Nishiki is a cross between an Oranda and a Calico Demekin, and they talk like they are separate varieties. Here is a quote from the book: " Azuma Nishiki.......and because of the intensity and clarity of their coloring are far more beautiful than Chinese Calico Orandas."

Either way I want to see pics of Imogen's Azuma Nishikis!

Maybe you guys could pin this, this is a great source of goldie info IMO

Are you a breeder, a vet or a biologist?

btw: A species should be in Italic, so it should be Carassius auratus
Yes I'm a biologist

Help guys I need to find a pearlscale moor, a telescope oranda.. and a tamabasa help!

Since those are simply oddities - and not recognised breeds, specifically, it is not likely that you will find them.

You can put just about any "Feature or Trait" on any breed, but that does not necessarily make a new breed. It needs to breed true and create lines. Then it must be accepted as a new breed. Those are not.

You might have to go to China. They have goldfish that we've never seen or heard of in the U.S.

Actually, Azumanishiki are indeed the calico oranda, yet with much brighter colors, mostly the red. The most desired Azumanishiki are the ones with a true red cap. Or at least with as much red in the wen as possible. A breeder in Orlando is trying to get the Azumanishiki going for years now, and some of his oranda look very promising.