So, I figured it could be a test to see if my veils (around one year old now) are willing do give me some fry. They are in a 75 gl tank right now, and the bottom of that stand houses another 75 gl tank with just 3 orandas in it. I notice every time I change the water, that the orandas start to chase the day afterwards.
So, smart me thinks about a huge water change and see what happens. I even have the water temperature a bit different, just a tad. Spawning material hanging in there as well - a whole bunch of soft silk greenery with very fine leaves. They are well fed, love their bloodworms, so yeah, why not? Yada, yada, yada....
The next morning is action!!!

But no, not the veils, of course! What was I hoping for?

No, the orandas underneath the veil's tank is at it. So is my 30 gl quarantine tank across the room, currently housing 2 very small butterfly telescopes and a bigger red/white oranda. I had to go to work, and since the orandas never produced any eggs, and the little fish in the q-tank are way to small (I was thinking that anyway...), I didn't think much of it. Well, I got home, and of course, nothing in the veil tank, nothing in the oranda's tank. BUT the q-tank is full of eggs!

Well, I wonder how much more there were, since those 3 buggers had all day to eat their little hearts out. None of the 3 is any slimmer than before, and I can't figure out which one is the female. The bigger oranda would make the most sense, but the little telescopes are just over an inch long without their fins, so who did what???
Anway, no veil eggs, no oranda eggs, and halfway eaten moor/oranda eggs. Boy, what a joyous day that could have been....

I know that those veils are a bit stubborn when it comes to breeding, but man, just once would have been nice. BUT I keep feeding them heavy and try again for the next water change.