Fish_Fanatic
Jan 6 2008, 09:14 AM
Can i put a cory catfish with a butterfly pleco and a few tetras together in a fourteen gallon tank?
balashark
Jan 6 2008, 10:36 AM
Corys should be kept in groups of 3 or more. And it depends on the type of tetra, some of the smaller ones would be ok. But they're also schooling fish, so should be kept in groups.
Chrissy_Bee
Jan 6 2008, 02:50 PM
I keep cories and tetras together, no problem. The pleco, I'm not familar with.
Kristi
Jan 6 2008, 03:03 PM
Depends on the tetra--I had some nip my cories fins and one even attacked my albino.
Selena
Jan 6 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE(Kristi @ Jan 7 2008, 10:03 AM)

Depends on the tetra--I had some nip my cories fins and one even attacked my albino.

I had teras with cories and had no problems. What breed of tetra where they? I had neons.
Kristi
Jan 6 2008, 08:01 PM
The tetras were serpae and redeye. One of the redeyes just hated my albino cory for some reason. He also went after my hatchetfish.
Chrissy_Bee
Jan 7 2008, 02:51 AM
I have black skirts, neons and 'xray' tetras with my cories and haven't had problems, it seems like a good combination.
Jake Minimuto
Jan 7 2008, 05:09 PM
I have 5 neons and an elegant cory with no problems in my 5 g. tank. now i am not posting this to advertise to some wacky people that my tank is overstocked or something. all i wanted to say is that i have no problems.
balashark
Jan 7 2008, 07:07 PM
Redeyes can be a little more agressive, same w/ the bleeding hearts. Maybe the red coloring?
balashark
Jan 7 2008, 07:09 PM
oh, and Jake, your tank is overstocked

(just call me whacky)
Jake Minimuto
Jan 11 2008, 05:30 PM
Fine, Mr.
Whacky!Because just today I got 2 bumblebee gobies and a dwarf cockatoo cichlid!

Back atcha!
J
Trico
Jan 11 2008, 10:27 PM
All in the same tank jake?
balashark
Jan 12 2008, 09:45 AM
Man I REALLY hope not. C'mon Jake, tell us you have a new tank too...
See my reply in your other post, the gobys and cichlid need lots of room to not be agressive. Plus every fish you've mentioned except the tetras are bottom dwellers, you're gonna have some real fights for territory down there. Not to mentioned your water will be poison soup in a matter of days. There's no way five gallons of water and a minifilter can support that type of bioload. Please say you didn't put them all in a five gallon.
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 02:20 PM
Sorry, I did.
but the there is good news too. I have a cave for my cory and a cave for my cichlid, I overfilter by about 50gph, and my gobies don't use caves, in fact, they barely even stay at the bottom!
J
P.S.
My fishkeeper showed me a tank with three dwarf cockatoo cichlids and all these amandae tetras that are about an inch in size. the cichlid just left them alone.
P.P.S. you can call me J because my real name is not Jake, it is Jonathan.
Trico
Jan 12 2008, 02:31 PM
You are beyond overstocked!! You need to set up your 19 gal or whatever it is pronto... I mean you should stop ignoring the good advice of these people on the forums... poor fish
Unless you want your fish to die horrible cramped deaths, make some space, they'll never be able to live their lives peacefully
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 02:47 PM
My fish are NOT cramped. if anything, how big is your house? my fish's tank in relation to their body size is like having a person in about a 2300 sq. ft. house.
Please

bothering me about this. it was not my idea, my lfs said I could. if your advice is true, all dealer's tanks and all people's tanks are overstocked!
also, you remember what I said in post #8???? Huh??? Huh???? Now look where we are now!!!
J
Trico
Jan 12 2008, 02:50 PM
Many other people can vouch with me on this, some if not the majority of local pet stores have staff that know nothing of safe fish housing. Most of these stores sell fish because they all want a fatter paycheck, hard to understand but its true, they do not care about the welfare of their fish. They keep tanks to sell fish, not keep them. And if more die? Guess what they order more...
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 02:57 PM
You know what I noticed? at pets mart the fish sit at the bottom of the bag when you bring them home. they don't even give you a brown bag for your fish!
At my favorite fish store(Living Art Aquarium) just yesterday when I got my fish they were swimming around in the bag after two hours of sitting in a car with a temperature of about 50 degrees. right when they got in the tank they kept looking as happy as they do now. pets mart fish sit at the bottom of the tank after they get in your tank and only start swimming when you feed them.
J
Trico
Jan 12 2008, 03:00 PM
Your basing your opinions and observations on just one out of many local chain stores, then basing them on specific species of fish? Did you even qt them?
Tell me how big is your tank and how many fish there are, also what kind are in their? And please do not get too angry, I mean no harm even if I do sound blunt.
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 03:13 PM
Okay, I have 5 neon tetras, 1 elegant cory, 2 bumblebee gobies, and 1 dwarf cockatoo cichlid.
No live plants.
I use salt in my water for my gobies.
J
lclayton
Jan 12 2008, 03:15 PM
QUOTE(Jake Minimuto @ Jan 12 2008, 10:47 PM)

My fish are NOT cramped...It was not my idea, my lfs said I could. if your advice is true, all dealer's tanks and all people's tanks are overstocked!
Of course dealer tanks are overstocked! They need to house the most fish they can to sell more! Can you imagine how big the shops would have to be otherwise,or how few fish they would be able to house and sell, if (for example) every goldfish had at least 10 gallons each like is recommended?
Your fish may look happy enough to you, but I can't understand the logic of adding so many fish to so small a tank, and then actually acknowledging that it is an overstocked tank, and just completely rejecting other people's advice! I guess it's uo to you though, I suppose.
Trico
Jan 12 2008, 03:16 PM
All in a five gallon or did you set up your 19 gallon?
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 03:19 PM
I have not set up my 19 G. because you know, I am a kid and don't have all the money in the world!
J
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 03:21 PM
And lclayton, did I ever acknowledge that I have and overstocked tank?
The answer is: NO NO NO NO NO!!!
J
lclayton
Jan 12 2008, 03:24 PM
Maybe not explicitly, but you did say you weren't interested in 'whacky' people telling you it is overstocked, which must mean that you are aware of it yourself really.
And subsequently, people have told you it is overstocked.
I am not looking for an argument, I'm simply concerned that the fish are crowded, like everyone else. Like I said, it's up to you.
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 03:27 PM
when I said wacky people that are telling me that my tank is overstocked, I meant that there are people that are wacky because they think that my tank is overstocked.
lclayton
Jan 12 2008, 03:28 PM
...it IS overstocked! Vastly so!
I give up!
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 03:30 PM
Finally someone will stop bothering me.........
J
Trico
Jan 12 2008, 04:35 PM
Wow, you won't admit your poor fish are overstocked? I mean just wow... Whats fact is fact, a goldfish needs at least 10 gallons, otherwise hes will be plaugued with illness, among other problems. Why do you seek to join these forums anyhow? It doesn't give either of us good, we try to help you and you don't listen. Then you give us the thought of your poor animals cramped together like sardines! I mean you're probably not satisfied with the amount you have now, and when your fish die you won't know what the problem is.
Jake Minimuto
Jan 12 2008, 04:40 PM
I am completely satisfied and done getting fish or other things for my tank. now is the time when I get to enjoy my fish and all I really have to buy is food.
J
Trico
Jan 12 2008, 04:45 PM
You may enjoy your fish they do not enjoy having you as a caretaker. You are now susecptible to all sorts of water problems, bacterial infections, parasites, and general overstocking, Congradulations

. You sure know what your doing, you are an expert fish keeper, tending to his fishes every whim. (In case you didn't get that, its sarcasm)
I personally keep a five gallon tank, with 3 mollies about one inch long. This I feel may almost overstocked
lclayton
Jan 12 2008, 05:07 PM
Trico, both instinct and what I know about stocking would suggest to me that 3 mollies is probably just about right, certainly no more

J, I know I just said "I give up", but I can't.
I'm glad you're satisfied with how many fish you now have, and that you enjoy watching them. Maybe you will eventually pick up that it is more than just a case of how many fish you can physically fit into the available space. Do you even ever test your water?
I just find it really sad that you have such beautiful fish like the bumblebees and they are not likely to live out a natural happy lifespan, however active and healthy they may seem at the moment, and that you won't be able to enjoy them as well as you could, and for as long.
I appreciate that you don't have enough money to set up that other 19G, but maybe you could start up another 5G, and split them up for now? Just a suggestion. The territorial fish would appreciate the extra room, I'm sure.
There are so many people on these forums that are experienced fishkeepers that can offer sensible, practical advice to people who need it (I'm not calling myself an expert, I need the help too) and I think you would do well to listen to people rather than assume you are right just because you currently feel you have no problems. Like I said before, I am not picking a fight, I am simply concerned for the welfare of the fish.
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