Are there two types of pompoms? I see some that are like, pompom eggfish, and some that are called pompom orandas, that have a dorsal fin...what's the correct standard? Or, are there different standards for the two?

i believe Daryl once said pom poms can come in any variety of goldfish but are found commonly in the oranda genetic strain

There is a breed that is specifically called a "PomPon" - a rather streamlined fish with large, matched poms. Typically, these fish are chocolate with red poms - at least these days.

Poms are simply a large growth of the "nose flap" on the fish. Since all fish have these "flaps" you can see poms expressed to one degree or another on most breeds. Some judges do not like to see poms on a breed other than the classic "PomPon" but, most will accept them as simply extra adornments on a fish.

I have a big Lionhead - Bubba - who has quite splendid poms - nice big blue and white ones. He was "DQed" once for them, but has won numerous Best of Breed and such at other shows.

So Mrs. Daryl, is the standard for the Pompon with or without dorsals...?

My little Ralph whos a Oranda has 1 pom pom dunno what happend to the other one.. I bought him like that.. he melted my heart with his little red pom pom...

I have loaned my US standard book out and it has not found its way home, yet. But the UK standards are very nearly the same - particularly on the Pompon....

Depth of body - greater than 1/2 body length
Nasal septa - well developed
Dorsal fin - ABSENT
All other fins paired, caudal fin divided.
Caudal fin - forked
Extremeities of fins having a rounded appearance
Minimum length of body - 2 1/4 inch (55mm)

Fish will be bright and alert and well balanced
Body to be short with smooth contours and showing no sign of a dorsal fin. Caudal fin to be well divided
Pom-pons to be large, well shaped and matching
Color: metallic: self color as listed in points table/variegated - any combination of the listed colors in a pleasing pattern similar on each side.
Calico group - blue background with patches of violet,redl, orange, yellow and brown, spotted with black
ETc. Etc. Etc.

Well, poot. It seems all the pompons I'm looking at are other breeds that simply sport pompons.

That's exactly what I have, but it's prone to tail & fin rot compared to my other goldfishes. It's the main reason why it's still in my big aquarium.

Like jikin2007, all the pompoms I have ever seen round here are like "Mrs. Daryl" () described, streamlined with dorsal, chocolate in colour with orange poms. I have never seen 'pompoms' as described in the US standard book

Here's one of my old ones, he got to about 7 1/2 inches but succumbed to fluke/2ndry bacterial dropsy, he had a brown saddle, a white belly and really nice big compact poms.

http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/...showtopic=46585

That's really nice! But I'm very sorry about your loss.

My Chocolate PomPom is an Oranda..., like the one pictured in aquariumfish.net; however, it's 4.5" big now. It was two inches when I bought it.

We have both dorsal and dorsaless varieties in Singapore. Will post a photo later.