SwimmingGoldie
Aug 14 2007, 10:55 AM
Hello im SwimmingGoldie and i have 2 goldfish one a white bubble-eye and one telescope-eyed goldfish there in a 5 gallon tank for now but were looking for a used 20-29 gallon tank and anyways my bubble eye goldfish acts really strange when i turn on the light of the aquarium she or he dosent move then when i tap lightley she/he still dosent move then in awhile he/she then will start moving around really crazily its summer and its about 76 degrees in the tank and this fish is really plumb ( has a pot belly ) and poops out long light colored bubbley stuff. I've tryed giving it peas as a thought of costepation but nothin works its the same color as before i usually feed them floating pellets and flakes. and i dont thinkits ready to spawn yet cause its only half a month old and its spring what should i do? Im looking for advice
thanks SwimmingGoldie
MyGoldfishIsLumpy
Aug 14 2007, 11:03 AM
This should really be in the disease section, but hopefully a moderator will move it.
You should have a look in the disease section and at the top of the page there are some questions. If you could please answer as many of those as possible, we would be able to help you better.
It does sound a bit like constipation. Before feeding the peas to cure that, it is often recommended to not feed the fish for 2 days to prepare the digestive system for the peas. Then, the peas should be fed for 2-3 days.
However, I think we should wait for more info before deciding on a cure.
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 14 2007, 11:08 AM
Were is this thing you are talkin about????????????
thtanks SwimmingGoldie
MyGoldfishIsLumpy
Aug 14 2007, 11:13 AM
http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/...hp?showforum=10That's the link. There is a white box at the top of the page with questions that are helpful for us to know.
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 14 2007, 11:18 AM
ummmmmmmmm well theres a problem i dont have ph scale readings and ammonia readings is that ok or do i need some right now for the answers
daryl
Aug 14 2007, 11:58 AM
Bubble eyed goldfish are particularly delicate - far more than the average fancy goldfish. Because of this, they really need PRISTINE water to survive and thrive.
It sounds like your fish is suffering from a combination of problems - most problems do not occur by themselves. First thing you should address, though, would be the water quality. 5 gallons is simply too small a volume of water to allow you to react to water problems. What happens in a 5 gallon tank can occur in less than 2 hours - from ok to toxic.
Poor water quality will stress a fish - allowing opportunistic parasites access to a fish. Parasites often bring bacterial infections with them - as they break the fish's skin and lower immunities.
The first thing I would suggest is getting an ammonia/nitrite test. Secondly, if you have any sort of plastic tub that you can use - fill and hang your filter from - that is larger than 5 gallons, I would immediately move the fish to that, until you can get a larger tank.
Changing out the water - at least 25% of it every day is most likely in order - fresh water will go a long way to helping a sickly fish.... Tests will help you to determine exactly WHAT you have to do - and how to go about it, for working without more information will just be guessing. It is nearly ALWAYS a good guess that less than quality water is at the root of most problems - so you cannot go too wrong with changing out the water.
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 14 2007, 05:58 PM
thanks for all the help i really do because im sooooooooooooo attached to this one and ill do what you want me to just a bin? also i do have dechlonaite stuff that takes chlronie out of tap water but how long does it take to actually work because i replace the water with distilled water from the grocerie store? am i supposed to do that? and im soooo sorry im all confused i feel like to stupidest person on this website.
thanks alot SwimmingGoldie
MyGoldfishIsLumpy
Aug 14 2007, 06:23 PM
Even if you don't have a test kit at the moment, you should still post the answers to the rest of the questions.
As for the water, distilled water is fine but it is cheaper to just use tap water and add the chlorine-remover. It works almost instantly, but you want to add it before you pour the water into the tank.
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 14 2007, 06:34 PM
Test Results for the Following:
Ammonia Level? ........
Nitrite Level? ................
Nitrate level? ..................
Ph Level, (If possible,KH and GH and chloramines)? ..................
Ph Level out of the Tap? ..............
Tank size (How many Gals) and How long has it been running? 5 gallons
What is the name and size of the filter/s? ummmmmm one of those cheep nnnnnn tanks dont kno were the box is
How often do you change the water and how much? 1 gallon each week with distiled water
How many fish in the tank and their size? 2 fish 1 1/2 both
What kind of water additives or conditioners? aquamel
Any medications added to the tank? none
Add any new fish to the tank? no not for awhile louie and merial i bought 1 month after the other
What do you feed your fish? flakes and floating pellets
Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt", no
bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? no
Any unusual behavior like staying
at the bottom, not eating, ect..? not reacting to things but then bolts around also i really bouncey and stays at the top then swimms around also hes growing back a bubble after my other fish thats dead now bit it off
there you go SwimmingGoldie
MyGoldfishIsLumpy
Aug 14 2007, 06:48 PM
You should be doing 25% water changes every day to avoid problems in a small tank like that.
That's probably the problem. A bigger tank would end your troubles, but until then, you should be doing much more frequent water changes.
Like Daryl said above however, any large container would be fine. If you have any plastic bins or tubs that are larger than 5 gallons, rinse it out as well as possible and use that as their tank. The best way to help your fish right now is more water volume to help the water quality.
Does the filter have any writing on it? This could help us identify which model you have.
Edit: I forgot to say that you should get a test kit ASAP. Good luck!
daryl
Aug 15 2007, 05:00 AM
Distilled water is, on the scale of treated water, the MOST treated - (filtered/RO/DI and then distilled). The distilling process removes ALL the minerals and inclusions from the water. ALL of them.
Fish need many nutrients to live - and many of these they need to get from their water. Distilled water has none of these.
The BIGGEST problem with distilled water is not what is stated above, though. It is the fact that distilled water, because it has no minerals in it, also lacks ANY buffer. Since there is NO buffer in the water, the pH of the water will not be stable. As you feed the fish, or they eliminate, the pH of the tank can bounce all over the scale. A non-stable pH can be stressful, lower immunities or even kill, all by itself depending on how much it is varying over how many hours.
Use tap water. Use a dechlorinator. Get a larger volume of water.
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 15 2007, 11:35 AM
ok i have another question about water conditioner i have NovAua+ ( kordon) instead of the other one i listed, anyways do i have to wait a day for the conditioner to settle before it goes in the tank with fish or can i just put the right amount in right away with the fish in there too?
thanks for helping the stupid on (me) SwimmingGoldie
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 15 2007, 12:10 PM
hello any one
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 15 2007, 01:16 PM
is it just me or am i just not getting anyones reply im sorry but on every wensday i clean my bettas tank and im wondering if i can put the conditioner in it right away along with my other fish
MyGoldfishIsLumpy
Aug 15 2007, 01:27 PM
You need to add the correct amount of water conditioner to the tap water before you pour it into the tank. It works almost instantly.
Keep looking for a bigger container for your fish!
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 15 2007, 02:01 PM
thanks
swimminggoldie
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 15 2007, 02:44 PM
could yuo help with one more thing?
ok so i have NovAqua + it says on the bottle add 1 teasspoon for each 10 gallons of tap water how much would i put in 1 1/4 gallon bowl for my betta? thanks alittle off topic but i hope you can help
MyGoldfishIsLumpy
Aug 15 2007, 02:57 PM
For small amounts like that, I usually just put a tiny bit in.
I probably add too much, but it's hard to overdose with that stuff so too much is better than too little.
Just do your best guess at a little less than 1/5 a teaspoon and it will work.
However, if anyone has any other techniques for measuring such tiny amounts, let's hear them!
Ranchugirl
Aug 15 2007, 06:05 PM
Well, how about closing one eye, eyeballing the tank with the other eye and just adding a little swoop of the stuff?

Gosh, 1 1/4 gallon! It has been such a long time since I dealt in such small bodies of water. I have to think in cup fulls of conditioner for my hubby's koi pond these days...
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 15 2007, 06:26 PM
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 16 2007, 05:18 PM

OMG he really likes it hes more energetic and curios this is my betta i also added a sword plant in a poy in there to he likes to sit under it.
thanks for sending this to me swimminggoldie
Trinket
Aug 17 2007, 09:28 PM
Hows your bubble eye doing there now SwimmingGoldie ?
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 18 2007, 05:20 PM
we havent been to the store or anything yet to get a bin but my mom will take me this week but my bubble-eyes his/her name is louie is changind from ghostly white to a really light pink i do feed both color enchanting floating pellets is that the reson louie is changing colors? anyways louie and merieal my telescope are doing really good they both have so much energy im kind of worried about louie he/she keeps swimming all over and really dosent think about hes/hers bubbles jamming them into a smooth rock in the tank or the thermometer its kinda funny
SwimmingGoldie
SwimmingGoldie
Aug 18 2007, 05:23 PM
sorry about spelling on that last post about my betta
i was so happy though thanks about everything
swimminggoldie
Trinket
Aug 19 2007, 10:01 PM
Good to hear all seems well.
Bubble eyes can be funny little swimmers, mine is a little clumsy too

Oh and no probs about the spelling I don't think people notice much or mind at all.
Ranchugirl
Aug 20 2007, 04:24 PM
I'll be moving this out of the 911 section then, but please, feel free to re-post here again if any troubles show up again.

Glad to hear that your bubble eye is doing better.
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