i was thinking about moving my orandas ,wadsworth and mogadore from their inside tank to the pond outside but i am not sure i want to move them what are some of the advantages and disadvantages to doing this? one is arange and the other is a lemon-head i dont want her color to change(if it will)it can get better but i dont want her to turn a totally different color.the only thing that would be left in the tank would be snails so at least that would meen less tank cleaning but it would also mean more pond cleaning.

if anyone has recomendations for getting rid of algea let me know pleeeeaaaase.

it is crazy i have to totally dump and clean the pond every few weeks so i can see the fish. it is filled with algea grrrrrr. anyway i was wondering if i should move themout side.

and if i do decide to move them how would i do it? should i just put them in a bag and let it float in the pond for 15 min. and then start adding some pond water to the bag gradually or is theye a better way? plus will it be ok to put them back in the tank at the end of the summer? and will it also be ok if i decide not to do it any other year?(put them in the pond that is?) sorry for all the questions but i just want to do what is right for them

oh yeah the pond is about 200g and it has 3 commons/commets and 3 fancy gf. thanks alot.

Mine go outside for the summer and then come back inside for the fall and winter. It gets too cold for them to stay out there all winter.

As for the algea...that is an awful lot of fish to have in a 200 gallon pond. That may be part of your problem. Totally dumping and cleaning it all the time doesn't help either. Just do small water changes daily and that should help.

i started doing that but i have been so busy latly i havnt had the time to do daily water changes i suppose the algea i s a good thing (helps convert amonia right? like other plants?) i just hate not beeing able to see them all the time b/c i am always afraid somthing might be wrong with them and i cant tell. it shouldnt be too many fish 3 commons/commets is 60g and 3 fancies is 30g that only takes up 90g of the 200 but i see what you meen more fish =more ammonia =more algea. oh well i guess ill just have to put up with the alge it is doing this greenwater thing wich i have heard is good right? i just hope the lillie plants will be ok with all the alge should imaybe put a fertilizer for pond plants in there(fish safe of course)? any suggestions would be great i am pretty new to ponds and stuff so i dont really know how perfect the water is supposed to look it it supposed to look clear rlike tank water? i will try to test the water today and see if the readings are high. thank s

ok here are the readings

amonia: .25
nitrate: about 2 (the color was just a little darker than the color for zero)
nitrite:0
ph: i dont really know how can you tell if i tis high range ph or regular? i did both tests so with the regular it looked like 7.6 and with the high range the color wasnt exact or really close but is was closest to 8.4 but i dont think our water is that high. well anyway ther eare the ranges do you think it would be ok to put my orandas in there to if i do regular checks with the test kits all the other fish are pretty small and the orandas would be the biggest fish in the pond. thanks

How long has the pond been set up, and is there a filter on it? You shouldn't be having ammonia/nitrite readings in an established pond.

I personally love the pond for my fish - they get plenty of natural food with all the bugs falling in and the algae growing on the walls, plus the green water gives them a nice deep coloration. If they are changing color, they would do that in the tank or the pond, you don't have any influence of that. Plus, in a pond, goldfish usually have more gallonage than in a tank. If you would leave it at the current number of fish in your pond, each of them would have a nice 50 gl for themselves.

Plus the fact that due to the green water no predator is going to see your fish. That is a big advantage, since there are eagles, herons, racoons and whatelse not might be very interested in your fish. Is it an above ground pond, or in the ground?

How cold is it in the coldest winter months? Here in south GA, the coldest it is is around 20 degrees air temperature, and my fish are all out during the winter except for the veiltails. They all did wonderful last winter.

it gets pretty cold and that pond usually freezes (i think) there is no filter b/c i dont know how to get it to reach up to the house(it is about 100 feet from the house) and it is new it has only been up for a few months so i havnt had it for very long i guess i will just leave the algea in there i hate cleaning it out. and i will just leave the orandas inside. thanks anyway though. oh yeah it is an inground pond.

Personally, I don't mind green algae. It is good for my goldfish. One of my orandas had swimbladder problem before. Since I put him out in the Rubbermaid stock tank outside, he is healthy now. He has eaten a lot of green algae and his poops are
mostly green. Every time I come to the stock tank, they come up to wait for food. I can see them very easy.

I moved my goldfish out there two at a time (a week apart) on the weekend. I waited until the water temperature of the stock tank and the water temperature of the tank inside are equal. I moved them out. I did not put in the bad though. I realized that you would stress them more if you put them in the bag.

100 feet is not too far. You can get outdoor extension cord and setup a filter in the pond. Without a filter it will be really difficult to keep it cycled.