I have an Oranda that is now laying to the bottom of the tank. His win is starting to grow over the eyes. I though this was the problem. After reading comments on how a fish can still eat with the eyes covered. I am wonder if this is another problem. I have done a water change and added salt. I have fasted him forty-eight hours. I do not think that he has a bladder infection, because I have had a fish die from that and is not showing the same symptoms. I am desperate to help my fish. I know that there is only a small window of opportunity to help a goldfish with an illness. If there is any one that thinks they can help I would appreciate your time.

Hi eddison, am sure on of the mods will get back to you soon. meanwhile you should fill in all the information at the top of the page as this will help with a diagnosis. is your oranda sitting on the bottom of the tank or is it actually laying on it's side ? does it move during feeding time ?

Test results:
Ammonia- 0ppm
Ph level from tap- 7.6 "little high"
nitrate- 0.3mh/l

I have a fifty-five gallon take with four fish. The take has two filters that hang on the back, they are "whisper 30-60". I do water changes of twenty-five to fifty percent weekly. I do not add any additives or conditioners to the tank. I have had this tank for three years and my fish for two of them. I have added no medication because there is no fungus, frayed fin ends or bloody streaks. I feed my fish a variety of blood worms, brim shrimp, greens, pellets (soaked in water from the tank first) and flakes. My fish is just sitting on the bottom of the tank and is not laying on it side or floating to the top. He does move during feeding time. I did hand feed him tonight because I am afraid that he can not see. I fed him blood worms and he ate a good meal.

Thanks for your time.

when you say you add no conditioner to the water do you mean water conditioner? if so that is a problem you need to add water conditioner to the tank to remove harmfull metals and chlorine from the water as the un - conditioned water is very toxic for your fish. i would suggest getting some water conditioner. amquel+ is a great one many people on this site recommend it. as soon as you add it to the water it is pretty much ready to go where some of the other brands you have to wait a couple of hours or even days.


one other thing what is you nitrite levels?

have you added any new fish to the tank lately even if it was a couple of months ago?

does he just sink to the bottom when the lights are off or is it when the lights are on also?

oh with your point of whether having a wen grow over his eyes will stop him from eating the answer is no. in most cases anyway. the only time you should be worried is if the wen grows over his gills.

also your ph is not that high if it fluctuates you may have a problem for example if it goes from 7.6 to 6.3 or similar to that but if it stays around 7.6 then i would not worry about that.

i am not sure on whether you filters provide enough gph for that size tank but if toothless or one of the other mods takes a look at this thread they will be able to tell you.

I do put conditioners in the water. I thought by that question you were referring to one of the gimmick type conditioners that the pet stores have. My fish lays on the bottom of the tank regardless the light is on or off. I can't even get him to fallow my finger around the out side of the tank. He will Eat when i feed him by hand. All of the water conditions are the same as the ones I posted above. I have had my fish for two years. Does any one think if I took some of his wen off that this might would? The bubble eyes fish lay at the bottom of the tank b/c their bubbles get to heave. My fishes wen is very large.

Thank every one for their help.

what brand water conditioner you have confused me now?