I really want to get a tosakin goldfish, but i haven't found anywhere that sells them . So, i wanted to know if anybody knows where to get a small tosakin in California, specifically in Orange County or somewhere in L.A. Please also put how much it is. Thank you!

I've been researching online and can't find anyone locally. Not that I'm surprised. In fact, the only thing I could find at all was an importer from Thailand. I know that isn't what you're looking for, but I inserted the link anyway. I'll keep my eyes open. Tosakin

Ken, of Dandy Orandas has tosakins - or had them a few weeks ago. He regularly gets very nice fish - tosakins included. He is in Columbus Ohio, but ships all over the nation. Jartist just got a nice pearlscale and ranchu from him about a week ago, and I just got some ryukins and a ranchu, too.

He is fair in price, honest in dealings and has very healthy fish.

You might give him a call or e-mail....

Dandy Orandas
614-252-0690
kfischer@columbus.rr.com
dandyorandas.com

Are they doing whole sale or retail? any experience with them? Love their ranchu

i like those tosakin too, but i always thought they were kept in japan, with very little export. or was that another breed?



did i read that right? tosakin for $0.00??? in that case, i'll go spend $$$ on a 150G and get 10 of them!!!

I think they only from japan and imported but i reccomend dandy orandas

I really want a tosakin! If there was ever a way to get one within my budget then I definitely would! Unfortunately I don't have very much money to spend. Too bad.

Hey daryl, how much are his tosakins and how big are they?

if anyone also knows where to get jikins in orange county,california,please tell me where to get them and how much they are. Thanx!

Last year he had some little 3 inchers..... I think I saw some nice 5-6 inchers at his place last week...... I really had my eyes on other fish, though, so I will not swear by it. I honestly have no idea what he would want for them..... you will have to ask. KEn is a good guy and will answer honestly. He is very good at giving a break - and I trust him.

Give him an email or a call......

I know the Fish Sempai sells tosakin and wakin. He imports from Tung Hoi Aquarium and the Thai Ranchu Centre so he could probably get you a jikin as well. He ships to the States. Go online to find him.

Angela

they are beautiful fish

Gah! I didn't know he also had Jikin & Tosakin's. Man oh man are we gonna be in trouble.

You know how to take care of tosakins though right? They're pretty challenging and are really sensitive compared to other fish. I suggest you research about them more if you haven't already.

Yep, goldfishlover, no worries there! (at least I know I've done my research!) But it's good to see you checking for the good of the fish!

does anyone here have a pic of a tosakin? I'm not sure what they look like. i looked on google, but it just gave me a bunch of pics of ryukins...

Haha! They're pretty much just ryukins/fantails exept their tails are connected in a sort of fan-shape. Go look at those pics again. You'll notice that they have no tail division along the upper edge.

ohhhhhh... ok

I love tosakin tails, they remind me of a long flowy skirt.

I've decided i really don't want a tosakin right now, but please keep posting places that sell jikins. I would die to have a jikin! Even an ugly colored one!

Tosakin

http://www.bristol-aquarists.org.uk/goldfi...kin/tosakin.htm


Jikin

http://www.bristol-aquarists.org.uk/goldfish/jikin/jikin.htm

Erm,

I don't want to put a thorn in your side or anything, but you were asking about the costs of rare goldfish like Tosakins and Jikins... I've no experience in Dandy oranda's prices and I live in Australia, but around here, tosakins cost $250(cheapest I've seen) and above, they are amongst the most prized and expensive of goldies in Japan, I've heard some Japanese goldfish fanciers will pay $3000-$6000 for a really good quality one. Japan has such a big market for tosakins that they don't need to export to make income.. and I'm guessing, that Jikins, which are just as rare as Tosakins (also not exported from Japan in large quantities) will be up in the same price range.....

iwantatosakin, I don't want to make too many assupmtions, but if 11 is your real age, I'm guessing you don't have your own independant income yet, you might be saving for a while....

Bruce is right..... tosakins can be pricey....

I talked to Ken of Dandy Orandas for other reasons.... and asked about the tosakins. He still has three "smaller" red ones - nice quality.... 4 to 4.5 inches. They are $95. They are nice fish, if I remember the ones - I saw them in January....

What is it about their physiology exactly that makes them different from other goldies? I mean I understand the fused tail, but other than that why should they be cared for differently? Im guessing they are less hardy perhaps but still am unclear as to why their needs seem so different?

Not just fused tail. Their tail is quite unique. In order to maintain and improve the shape of the tail, there are things that must be avoided in their keeping, such as strong currents and deep tanks. Japanese breeders traditionally put them in wide bowls without any filters, but very frequent water changes.

A tosakin's tail is very lightweight and is configured into a spread, flat configuration. The beauty and unique part of the tail is how it curls up and around at the ends of the outspread tail....

To keep this curl correct as it develops, it is said that a Tosakin should be kept in a round container. The water "waves" bounce back in a way that encourage the tail's curl correctly. Kept in too deep a container or in one that is rectangular or a pond, the tail is said to flatten and develop mishappen bends and curls.

Because of the delicate tail, they do not necessarily compete well with other fish.

I, personally, think a Tosakin is a topview fish - their beauty is mostly appreciated from a top view of the spread, curled tail. The best home for one in my opinon is a larger, shallow hex or rounded tank. The people who I know have them keep them in a 10 inch deep hex tank - 45 gallons - viewed from above. Their fish are truly beautiful roses that float in the water.....

I see! So its really about trying to meet a 'best tail ' standard than anything else?

A Tosakin is alllllll about the tail!

Lol! yes! Bring on the tail! I've got such a tail fetish...

(BTW Hi Carol, I'm back, and I'm BIG!!!! 5months and counting..)