daryl
Jan 13 2007, 02:02 PM
That looks to me as if it is still displaying juvenile "green" color - soon to turn red/orange and white.....
vmlola
Jan 13 2007, 02:20 PM

That is a really cute little fish!
daryl
Jan 13 2007, 04:38 PM
Yeah - I LOVE those little guys - they are alway so perky and happy.....
d_golem
Jan 13 2007, 08:09 PM
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That looks to me as if it is still displaying juvenile "green" color - soon to turn red/orange and white.....
Really? looks blue to me leh, complete with the classic olive markings. But need a better pic.
Say daryl, do u know how old on average does a fry has to be when it starts to change colour from bronze to orange or whatever? My fry is about 3 months old and some are still bronze
Lyndra
Jan 14 2007, 05:16 AM
I have had this fish about 3 months. He was about 2 inches long when I got him. So I really don't have any idea how old he is. Not sure if this is a better picture or not. He is that bronze on his back and whitish on his belly, his fins are a pale smokey bluish color, not true blue bue gray-blue
Devs
Jan 14 2007, 05:23 AM

Well,He looks like a Blue Oranda to me too.I've had them where they're really dark blue,but I've also had them where they were the lighter blue with big bronze markings like yours show.
There's a tank full like yours at the Pet Store right now.
daryl
Jan 14 2007, 08:12 AM
Riz - I have seen a lot that lose the color within a few weeks of spawning. I have also seen a number that hold the color for most of the first year - up to 5-6 inches in size, and then change over to their "adult clothes". I have seen a few that hold the "green" for life - a splendid bronzy green that is very eye catching!
There are two genetic types of blue, too. The first - the one referred to here, is a pale gray, sometimes seen with olive spots - generally on the head. This genetic blue is created by a suppression of the red and yellow and orange pigments - it is recessive - so you must breed a blue to a blue to get a blue - or at least a blue carrier (there are some modifiers that mess things up a bit in there). If you have a fish that is not carrying two (actually more, but we will keep it simple here ) recessive genes for the blue, you will not have a stable blue fish. It will change - to orange or orange/white as it ages.
Another type of "blue" expressed in goldfish it created by a combination of "metallic" and "matte" modifiers, mixed with a black component. This creates a net-like pattern of gray/black on the fish. This is a "darker" blue - more "charcoal" in my opinion. It is a bit less stable than the above type of blue. (also subject ot patches of "brown" or "olive".
It is also my opinion (Which is really not worth too much - believe me!) that many "greens" we see in older fish (certainly not all, though!) are not the same green seen in a juvenile, but, instead, are more from a genetic dispensation towards the "brown" or "chocolate" fish. The browns are a combination of orange (xanthine) pigments that are sitting on top of blue (melanin) pigments (or black"ish"). Depending on the "strength" of the orange in comparison to the blue, you get various colors - from a beautiful brown/chocolate to a greenish brown to, in some with a very light blue underlay and a light orange overlay, a "green" fish. This type of green is actually fairly stable and may be retained for the life of the fish.
OldHag
Feb 11 2007, 10:42 AM
With my babies, I have experienced some differences! The calicos are pinkish from the beginning, then develop their colors very fast. The "brownies" change from about 3 month to 1 year, and they have always started with a deep brown color that slowly disappears, and gets replaced by a pale orange, that slowly deepens.