With all the hundreds of goldfish varities that have been produced over the last 2,000 years. I was wondering if anybody had ever devoloped a fantail koi? Kind of like a koi with a wakin tail?

There are long finned koi - butterfly tails. They are very pretty in my opinion. But I am a HUGE fan of finnage. Many consider them less than classical. I do not know if I have any pictures of them from our last show. I was impressed with the numerous pretty babies and a few spectacular jumbos that sport the long flowing fins.

I have a butterfly koi in my aquarium that I'll be putting in my pond this summer. It has long fins and a long single tail like the comet. This is my first koi and I also like the long fins. But I also think the a fantail koi (like a wakin tail) would be a nice addition to my pond if they exist.

I've never heard of a fantail koi...but I really don't know much about koi other than the basics

you mean a koi with a double [short] tail? I don't think it's likely... the Japanese are pretty strict with maintaining the current standards in koi.

Butterfly koi are better described as longfin koi. They do NOT have split or doubled tails. They were developed by outcrossing standard koi with Indonesian Longfin carp, resulting in long flowing finnage (and longer barbels and small nasal pom poms). In my opinion, they look better from the side (as in an aquarium) than standard koi.

They are not called butterfly for the same reason that certain goldfish are given that name. The son of one of the original US breeders invented the name when he told his father that the fish (with their flowing fins) looked like butterflies.

I, too, have one in my tank for the winter. He's a Kohaku (red and white) and growing like a weed. He is a Tosai, or first-year fish, now over 7 inches. One of these day's I'll figure out how to post a picture.

Dennis

Dennis,

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Butterfly koi are awesome, aren't they? And I think they not only look better viewed from the side than standard fin koi, but they look better viewed from the side, period.

Out here in California they are called Butterfy Koi. I had 2 of them in our outdoor pond and they are so butterful. One had a 3 inch tail with shades of black running through it. She was poetry in motion and looked like she was wearing a chiffon evening gown that swirled as she moved. Regretable both were taken by a blue heron 4 months ago and we still miss them. I think the were snatched because of thier beautiful long tails poking out from thier hiding space. I hope to find more this spring to add to our family.

i have seen many KOI's here and they are called Highfin koi

I was asking about koi with fantails like a wakin. With split or double tails.

This post is getting a little off topic talking about butterfly, long fin and high fin koi. I am well aware of these.



These butterfly tails. Do you mean butterfly tails like the butterfly moor? Or do you mean a long single tail?

They apparently didn't read my post. It was the fifth one down from the top.

And no, I still don't think you're likely to see a koi with a double tail like a wakin. Unless you breed them yourself and somehow get one or two that are mutants in the batch of fry..