you should read all of the post in this topic. the video has already been shown a few times.

Found a new one that really shows why.
Why Goldfish need more then 10g each.

This is the exact same video from the first post.

If you compare this video to the old video the goldfishes streaking in it's tail has gotten so much worse! Poor thing... it's so beautiful and to have just enough room to turn around. It's cruel.

Sorry was thinking the first one is orange now I need to find the orange one. lol

OMG, that is horrible. Poor fish in a ten gallon tank. While watching that video, I clicked another by the same person showing that fish in a 20 gallon tank. Too bad that the tank came too late to avoid permanent damage due to poor water quality and the stress of being in a tank that was far too small.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppjcO-SV4MY&NR=1

When I first joined this site some while ago, I had three Goldies. They were "feeder" goldfish that my husband and I took a fancy to. We had them for a short while, in a 29, knowing that we could not keep them for their entire lives. Two were Commons and the third was a Comet, and we knew that a tank large enough to house the three of them once they hit a foot or more was beyond out means. So they went to a gal who has a very large, very well maintained outdoor pond. She fell in love with our boys, Dart, Impulse and Flip, and said that they were the healthiest looking goldfish she had ever seen. It helps that my husband is a die hard fish researcher and we have a number of other tanks of fish (Oscar, a wide variety of South American Cichlids, Tetras, Hatchetfish). Water changes are not something that we are shy about doing and we know proper stocking patterns.

We recently picked up a nice used 55 (in great shape) for $6 at the local thrift store. I have been wanting goldfish again, so my husband set aside his plans for the tank (since he already has 4) and let me have it for goldies. He even drove me to the store and picked one of the fish out. We got 3 Fantails. One is a beautiful pearl white about 2 inches long (including tail). One is a calico and about and inch and a quarter long. The third is a bronze that my husband thinks may be a Moor as it has "Googly Eyes" as he calls them and has a smaller, more triangular tail. This one is not even an inch long...tiny cute little goldfish baby.

These three fish are in a 20 gallon long for now, being observed for any signs of disease and to let them grow a bit before putting them into the 55. Yes, 55 gallons will be a bit small for 3 fully grown fantails, but like I said, water testing and water changes are not new to us. We keep the nitrates in all of our tanks below 10ppm, usually no higher than 5 to 7ppm before water changes. My husband is fanatical about fish care, and says that healthy fish start with healthy clean water.

Sorry this turned into a novel.

Deb

if im not misaken isnt this video old and that fish is now dead when the owner upgraded to a larger tank?
yes its cruel, but cruel is in the eye of the beholder
this fish is NOT stunted obviously, so the owner must have kept up with water changes
a small tank doesnt stunt fish IMO, its the lack of water changes that stunts fish...any fish, fresh, salt or brackish

if you change out 90% of the water everyday in a 10 gallon tank the fish will grow, and grow, and grow
and not be stunted
heck you can even stunt fish in a 1000 gallon pond if you never change the water

this is an extension to my previous post

if im not misaken isnt this video old and that fish is now dead when the owner upgraded to a larger tank?
yes its cruel, but cruel is in the eye of the beholder
this fish is NOT stunted obviously, so the owner must have kept up with water changes
a small tank doesnt stunt fish, its the lack of water changes that stunts fish...any fish, fresh, salt or brackish

if you change out 90% of the water everyday in a 10 gallon tank the fish will grow, and grow, and grow
and not be stunted
heck you can even stunt fish in a 1000 gallon pond if you never change the water

the theory of stunting due to a small tank is an old one, sorta an old wives tale.
there is some truth to it however. when a fish is kept in a small tank and water changes arent carried out often, the fish release pharmones, its the phermones that stunt the fish, not the small tank.
in a small tank phermones build up fairly quickly, which is the reason to change out the water on a daily basis this way the phermones never have a chance to build up and stunt the fish.
nitrates have also been linked to stunting...but not with all species
some fish are immune to the stunting phermone, snakeheads will grow in a tiny tank no matter what.
so please lets stop the small tank stunting myth...its simply not true

that is an awesome video. Feel sorry for the poor guy, imagine being put into a small room n being told "thats your world." Im new here n guilty of the same coz only today i learnt how badly crowded my tank is. But the owner must be real proud that his fish is doing so well

that is an awesome video. Feel sorry for the poor guy, imagine being put into a small room n being told "thats your world." Im new here n guilty of the same coz only today i learnt how badly crowded my tank is. But the owner must have been real proud that his fish was doing so well

OMG! I can't believe that people think that's good for him/her!! Someone should take a book on goldfish and wack the owners heads with it, maybe that would knock some sense into their minds. Poor little- er big goldfish.

P.S. I'm new here and have 5 golfishies of my own. All sadly in a 20 gallon tank right now, but hoping to upgrade soon to at least a 30 gallon. I come here for helpfull information if I'm stuck on finding any. Love ze site!

This video should be shown to all prospective/new Goldfish owners! It has certainly scared me. At first I didn't think it was the same fish (as in the first part of video one) now I'm not so sure, in the second video in the 20 Gallon tank you can see faint markings where they would have been on the red and white fantail in the first video.
Julia

That fish was HUGE!!!! Common sense, now, owner. The fish was not all right. I agree, people should do research before getting ANY pet, even goldfish.

So sad.

wow. i got watched pirahna videos on that youtube link...thats horrible!!!i ahet seeing those things devour little helpless goldfish. even fantails!!i felt so bad!! but then i watched one where a pleco attack like 9 pirahnas...makes me want a pleco now haha.