Bob&Syd
Sep 4 2006, 10:02 AM
So somebody I know brought two little african dwarf frogs over yesterday that they couldn't keep anymore for some ridiculous reason, and they said since they knew I had an aquraium I could take them. I only have two tanks right now and one has dwarf puffers in it and they would gladly kill the frogs, so I put them in my 20 gal. with my two young orandas. There are a lot of hiding places and plants and driftwood...will the goldfish try and eat them? I had to put them somewhere so they wouldn't die. I have been keeping an avid eye on them and so far so good.
Blue
Sep 4 2006, 10:10 AM
How big are they compared with your goldies.It may be best in the long term to get the frogs a home of their own.Goldfish and the frogs can get on as long as your frogs aren't bitesize ones that will fit in your goldies mouths.
Heres a link on dwarf frogs for you
http://allaboutfrogs.org/info/mypets/dwarfs.htmlhttp://www.geocities.com/hollywood/bungalow/2463/dwarf.html
Bob&Syd
Sep 4 2006, 05:46 PM
the goldfish are still pretty small and young, so I don't think it will be a problem. THanks a lot for the links!
Ponderosa Power
Sep 4 2006, 08:53 PM
You may have to do some brain storming on feeding. The adfs are usually kinda slow about eating, while goldfish are just the opposite.
x-Lucy-Fish-x
Sep 5 2006, 08:04 AM
I'd pop them in a breeder net/trap so the goldfish cant try and eat them, then they can have their own food too, until you figure out what to do with them.
Woowoo
Sep 5 2006, 08:10 AM
I was very shocked to know you could keep froggie's in an aquarium. The fish store i go to sells them, not sure what type though. But dont frogs need more air?
Bob&Syd
Sep 5 2006, 09:38 AM
yeah, they can swim to the surface and a lot like to float around plants near the surface, so I put some suction cup flat leafed plants right up by the surface and they were hanging out in those. I think they can get oxygen through their skin a bit too, and I have a lot oflive plants in my tank.
Devs
Sep 5 2006, 11:21 AM
There are two types of what is considered to be "Aquarium Frogs".One is the ACF-African clawed Frog-They get to be about the size of your fist (if you're an adult).Some people do keep them with Goldfish,but I'll tell you that these type of frogs can be very aggressive,and will eat anything that can fit into its mouth.I have allready seen these frogs eat other frogs,that were the very same sizes as them selves.
The other,ADF African Dwarf Frog stays alot smaller,has very poor eyesight,and is not really meant ot be kept in a Goldfish tank.These little guys allready have their poor eyesight against them,and when adding goldfish,they have an even greater chance of starving or actually being eaten by the goldfish. They are much better kept in a species tank all by theirselves. Although considered tropical,I have seen people keep them in unheated tanks,and do fine.I keep mine in a Trop. fish tank,but when feeding I have to take extra care to make sure that they get their fair share of food as the Swordtails are pigs.
Your set-up may work okay now,but when keping these little guys with goldfish,it's almost like an accident waiting to happen.
Bob&Syd
Sep 6 2006, 06:23 AM
Exactly. I didn't want to put them in there to begin with, but it was the only safewater I had for them. Now however I have somewhere else for them. And I know, these guys are dwarf frogs.
Devs
Sep 6 2006, 07:47 AM

I figured that you knew what type yopu had. As a Mod,we're always explaining-just in case other's don't know.
Great to hear that you have somewhere else to house them in.What did you come up with?
Congratulations on your ADF's!
I have 2 of them as well - they are so cute and IMHO much cleaner and easier to take care of compared to goldfish. Mine are on their own in an eclipse explorer tank and have been pretty happy there (except for when I accidently had a pH crash). And what was mentioned about them being slow to eat is right - mine routinely let their bloodworms land on their heads before they realize they have been fed and start eating
Bob&Syd
Sep 8 2006, 06:33 AM
I went back home to my parents house and brought back my 3 gallon for them. Will bettas bother them? I have heard yes and no, I figure it probably depends on your betta.
VanillaOranda
Oct 12 2006, 07:13 PM
IF they are really little, I wouldnt put them is with a Betta. I once had the Idea that my Betta wouldnt be that retarted as to attack a cute tiny little harmess frog... but he did! and it was really freaky! just the tiny little guy napping on the bottom and then the stuipd betta's ike BAM! take that! and THAT... traumatising
Ponderosa Power
Oct 12 2006, 07:47 PM
I would not add a betta: too little space, and the betta may harm them.
Does the 3 gallon have a filter and heater? If not, you should buy them since they require a filtered and heated tank.
MonkeyBat
Nov 19 2006, 01:32 PM
I have had an african dwarf frog for over two years without a heater. I just use a light to heat the water and my little Pudge does great. She's been losing weight lately even though I've been feeding her more than what I used to. She was an adult when I got her so I'm pretty sure she might be getting to the end of her life. I love her to death. They're really entertaining and Pudge enjoys singing as well. I love hearing her sing.
I had Pudge in with my goldies. I put her in with the smaller ones so she had more of a chance. She kept her weight on and did well against the fish. I think it really all depends on the frog too. I've had Pudge for 2 years and yet the other two dwarfs that I had with her died.
Good luck with the frogs. They're really little characters and are a lot of fun.
Devs
Nov 19 2006, 10:31 PM
Since the thread was brought up,I figured I'd ask how the little guys are doing.
MonkeyBat
Nov 20 2006, 06:06 PM
Wow, sorry I didn't even realize this thread was as old as it is. Oops. Sorry about that.
Devs
Nov 20 2006, 07:36 PM
don't worry,this one's actually not too bad in date,and I didn't mean for you to take it that way.
Normally we do ask that if a Thread's over 2 months old,then try not to bring it up.Alot of times,answers/situations have changed,so it's easier just to start a new thread.This was from last month,so you're good.
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