Test Results for the Following:
Ammonia Level? 0
Nitrite Level? 0
Nitrate level? 20
Ph Level, (If possible,KH and GH and chloramines)? 7.0
Ph Level out of the Tap?
Tank size (How many Gals) and How long has it been running? 55 gallons, 6 months or more
What is the name and size of the filter/s? 2 Aquaclear 70 (300gph EACH)
How often do you change the water and how much? one time a week, 30-40%
How many fish in the tank and their size? 6 ranging 2-6"
What kind of water additives or conditioners? Prime
Any medications added to the tank? No, just salted to .1%
Add any new fish to the tank? Just took the two out of QT that had dropsy.
What do you feed your fish? Tetra flake, Progold, peas, bloodworms
Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt",
bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? see below
Any unusual behavior like staying
at the bottom, not eating, ect..? see below



I just transferred my 2 orandas from QT that had dropsy back into the main tank. They havent been in there more than 1/2 hour. I was taking pics of the calico to post here and I saw blood coming out of his tail!! It looks like a piece was broken off SOMEHOW and now hes bleeding. I dont know what to do. I just took the stupid QT tank apart too. Could this have happened when I netted him? There is nothing in the tank that could do this. All the other fish are disabled and cant see well so they are very docile. Since the tank is salted, will this hurt the wound?

If its anything like when we get salt in a wound then it probably would.How bad is the bleeding.If you have some meth blue if you can handle your fish put some meth blue on a Q tip and put some on his wound it will help prevent disease getting in As meth blue is a good antiseptic for wounds and damaged areas on fish.

Its not bleeding horribly but I can see it coming off into the water. I feel so horrible. I dont have any meth blue. Maybe I should set up the QT again?

maybe just put him in QT till it heals a bit so the others don't decide to take a nibble.Better to be safe.You could treat him with melafix in QT to help prevent infection.

OMG I found the piece of tail at the bottom!!! It had to of been my fault. Poor Pudgey.

Hope its not a big peice of his tail. Pudgey will be fine he has you as his owner.Just make sure he's treated with an antiseptic to prevent infection and check tank for anything sharp.Plastic plants can be lethal I'm in process of getting rid of all my not so soft plastic plants.

Yeah its a pretty big piece, maybe 3/4 an inch!! He seems to be doing OK though. Looking for food and swimming around. I think it stopped bleeding. I have the QT back up just in case. I only have fake bamboo in the tank. Round pebbles at the bottom. I think I did it.

Aw No Erin! Poor Pudgey....I'm sorry. Even if you did accidently bump his tail when you were taking him out, It wasn't un purpose hun.



I know Iv'e heard of some people using an antibiotic cream and applying that with a Q-Tip. I hope he get's better soon.

So sorry about your fishie. I have put neosporin on a q-tip and put it on wounds before. The salt should help it heal. I would keep the water pristine as well. you might do as suggested and put her back in the quarantine tank by herself to heal with some salt in the water. Less chance of the other fish bumping into her or picking on her already damaged tail.

Yes salt is effective for wounds Erin. It stings for people but it has healing prperties so dont worry about that. The neo-sprin is also good on a qtip-I would say if he's finished in QT this is an accident and he can stay in the tank as long as the other fish are not going to nip on the sore part (thinking its food ).

Thanks guys. He is still in the 55. Looks like the bleeding stopped. Im keeping an eye on him now. Is .2% salt too strong? I was going to up it today and I notced a small amount of tail fungus on my ryukin.

If your ryukin is acting normally a very small fungal patch should heal with perfect water and feeding medigold or crushed freezedried krill. If it gets worse or the fish starts to isolate himself or act strange then you may need QT and meds. Increasing aeration- not current though-will help. I think both fish will be okay with .2% salt

Thanks Trinket! I have the added salt. Now its a waiting game.

Erin, you have been having terrible luck with your fish lately, but I am glad the dropsy twins are out of qt! I have had two of my fish have pieces torn off their dorsal fins, and while they did not bleed all I did was salt to .1 % and keep the water perfect and they healed wonderfully. So with .2% salt and maybe some antiseptic as others mentioned, you should be fine I would think!

Thanks Jen.

It just looked so horrible. I feel awful. I feel a little better that he is scrounging on the bottom for food like a normal goldie though.

Scrounging around on the bottom for food is a very good sign indeed Fingers crossed and don't feel guilty, he'll mend

Hi Erin, I think he should be fine My large telescope had 1/3 of her tail chopped off as a result of rough play from one of my males and the bleeding stopped and she's doing real well. Just excellent water and salt as the others have said should be all that's needed

Also Jen what about the bamboo plant Erin has in there, I was wondering if that will be okay with the salt?

As a rule, I always remove all plants when salting. There's some that do ok in 0.1% but my java fern and anubia's all kicked the bucket at a level of 0.1%... I just wouldn't risk it

Theyre fake plants guys.

How's the patient doing today hun?

He is doing fine. Its no longer bleeding and he ate breakfast.

That's good new's!! I'm sure he'll heal up fine for you. Careful once he get's better he might take revenge on you and bite your finger!!

But really, Im glad to hear he's doing so well today.

Great glad to hear he's going to be fine Told you you had a couple of fighters plus you are the best owner they could have wished for

No sense in feeling guilty,sometimes these things unfortunately happen.As mentioned though he'll heal nicely with the salt and pristene water.Feeding always makes me feel better .I figure them eating is always a good sign.

I agree Devs!! Stuffing my face is always a good sign(or not?!).

Aww thanks Blue. You are a sweetie.

Della... I fish taking revenge... Thats a scary thought isnt it?!

Glad all is well Erin

I'm glad he's doing well Erin

Yay! I am glad things are better!

And off topic...Erin, did you make your avatar youself? Do they ever come to the US anymore? Just curious!