Well, I've been watching the outdoor tub for 4 days now and it looks like the eggs I removed to it bore fruit - I counted 7 fry out there just now

I hope they're ranchu's because my new fella, Chubbs was chasing my calico ranchu around like mad and this would be the first spawn for my little calico. She's only a little over a year old

I just hope they make it because as i've learned, you can have a lot of fertilised eggs, but in my case, only a few have made it.... In this case though, there were only about 15 eggs in total so I guess I'll just have to wait and see

Congrats Jen, want to see pics as they grow

Thanks Sands - I hope they do grow I tried to take pics today but it's almost pointless as they're so small.

Fingers crossed that they survive - it's awful cold out in that tub

Maybe add a heater? Whats the temp at as you dont want it to fluctuate too much.
Its mid summer here but feels more like the end of autumn. The outdoor fish hit 15c yesterday.

The tub is approx 13C - so a bit chilly. I was thinking of rigging up a 25W heater to the outdoor tub - it might help them. Do fry suffer at lower temps?

OOOh Congratulations!! 7 from 15 is a good yield I would have thought. Well done, I bet baby ranchu are extremely cute

If they had been normal goldies then they would be fine, but they are fancies and i would think they would not feed as much if in a low temp. To keep appetites up I think you should add the heater at its lowest setting which would be around 20c.

Good thinking Sands - I'll rig it up now

And thankyou Trinket They're only a day or so old and the next few days will tell how well they're getting on. I really hope I get some survivors because if the parents are my ranchu's - they'll be very cute

You go girl!!! I'm so happy for you-and maybe for Ranchu's at that!!!
I think it's best to also add a heater on it if you can.It's all about the first 165 days of their life,and you want them eating as much as they can..Being outside too,there's a chance that temps could flucuate a bit too much if you know what I mean,and that wouldn't be good.I think Comets/Commons could probably handle the temps better,but any fry are probably more prone to not handle temp swings.
You have to show who you think the parents are for us.I know Chubbs


You lucky Girl!!! Why do you live so darn far?

Hooooooh ranchu fries! Promise me u'll take pics of them when they're bigger

I'm pretty excited This is why i'm desparately trying to rig up this heater but the stinking thing is missing one of the clamps so the heater comes in contact with the plastic... now I'm trying to do some DIY gizmo which will hopefully suffice

I just took the temp out there and it's down to 11C - too cold for those little guys so I better put my skates on

And Riz - of course i'll take pictures

That is really some chilly water I must say.I know you though,and you'll definately come up with a plan.I have complete faith in your abilities.


I feel a DIY tip coming for sure!

Well, I've fixed the heater - and no, definitely no DIY Sharon, I had to pinch some suction cups from my filters Anyhow, I just took a pic of both (hopefully) mum and dad

Here's mum:



Here she is with her posse:



And here's dad:



Now, I'm going to laugh if they come out as oranda's because I'm seeing some suss behaviour from Winny and Wilbur... And Winny is the boy while Wilbur is the girl They went and changed gender on my after I named them

Winny and Wilbur better behave themselves.We want baby Ranchu's!
Oh Mum's also a little sweetie pie too! But I still have to say that your Nephew picking out Chubb's was the best. I smile everytime I see those little red lips.

And now the waiting begins........What will they really be I wonder.....

Yeah, Chubbs really is a keeper - such a sweet face

I don't know what kind of stange looking orandas would come from Winnie (redcap) and Wilbur (blue) - some strange looking little things that I'll love all the more because they'd be so ummm, unique....

Congrats Jen.Really hope they are Ranchu's.Ranchu's are so cute

Oh Mom and Dad are beautiful! Even though Dad gets to wear the lipstick - ! I've seldom seen your fish Jen,they are a gorgeous looking bunch

I'm starting to wonder about Jen and the naming/gender's of her fish.
She's got Chubb's the boy wearing lipstick,a female named Wilbur,and a male named Winny!
Jen,you have your fish all confused here!

Wow,now that would be interesting wouldn't it? I'm picturing a swirl of Red/White/Blue here.
A sort of "One for the States" fish.

Hmm cross dressing fish now thats a strange concept

I know, I'm almost embarrassed to put their names on the board now, especially as I not only get it wrong, but I refuse to change their names because I only know them from what I originally called them

I think I'm confused

And wouldn't a red, white and blue fish be patriotic? Or just odd....

Probably patriotic and odd.
Seriously,I had a Betta who was red white and blue.Man was he a beauty.The Blues were like old worn denim,the red and white parts were matte in color.He was one of my favorite Betta's.

He sounds it I'm thinking of getting a betta - there's some lovely ones down at my local and even though I don't know much about their care, I just can't stand to see them in a 'wine' glass on the counter... so i'll bring one home with me...

Yep I've been thinking the very same thing recently Jen... save a betta...but I have to do some research first- Sharon that betta you had sounded a real trendsetter with his faded denims and matte color tee- amazing they come in so many variations..well, that much is like goldfish I spose

I'm going to get my new betta (i think) today

Well the temp out in the tub is a nice 16 degrees and rising - all the eggs are now hatched.... so it's become a waiting game. I will post some pics in the next couple of days although you can hardly see them

Yay New betta cool.Hurry post pics when you get him/her Can't wait to see your cute fry

Ur Red cap oranda is very beutiful!!

Thankyou BadBoyzon

Oh my, I just counted 45 fry

I don't know what happened but I did move some other plants that looked a little jaded into another tub - plants I had NO idea contained eggs. So I was going to empty my big tub of <ahem> rather dirty water when I noticed a mass of fry So now I'm going to have to get one massive tank

I wonder how many will survive?

Am I to understand that you now have 2 sets of fry?Did the plants come from the same tank as the first fry you found? 45????? WHy do I have to live in Pittsburgh?
Forgive me if I'm not understanding as I have barely slept a wink all night.

It does sound like more fry from the same tank Sharon. Not just you
Are there not supposed to be 2 or 3 batches of eggs from the same female- ?correct me if Im wrong there- all those babies and a new betta!!!You will be busy Jen! Pics soon please!

I'll be honest with you guys - even I'm confused I removed plants from 4 tanks that need a bit of reviving so it could be from any one of my 50 or 55 or 2 60's....

I didn't get the betta because the one I wanted was sold as were my 3 other choices... apparently they're very popular So i'm still looking for that special little one to bring home

So now you're really going to keep us in suspense,,no? Any of the four tanks....Geez!!!!!!!!! We could have some real Mutts here!
Just kidding of course.I've never seen a Goldie that I couldn't love. I can't wait for the pics to start showing up!

No, you're right Sharon - mutts will be everywhere But like you, i've always loved my mutts

I'm going to try and take some pics today, mind you - they all look the same but these ones seem to be growing faster than my first 3, i think it has something to do with the temperature. It's a good 20C in there at the moment but because it's still winter, green water isn't happening as fast as i'd like

can't wait to see pics. i bet ranchu fries are just adorable.

Congrats! More and more fry, goldfish are taking over the world!

Lol Anette Well they're taking over my house

It looks like i've lost several .... but am about to do a waterchange on the tub to check... I don't know what this little group will be but will show pics as soon as they're big enough to make it interesting

How did I miss this thread?! Wow Jen! Youre going to be busy. Congrats on the fry.

Lol yeah Erin and thanks

Any news on the fry?Did you really lose a few?
I was getting ready for work tonight and I saw my 75 gal. still had the tank lights on,so I went to turn them off before I left. To my surprise,I spotted a few eggs sticking on an Onion plant that had uprooted.I looked a little closer and saw about a dozen or so scattered.By this time I had to leave,so I have no idea who was up to the spawning,and I know there won't be any signs left by morning. I'll just have to love and admire yours. I hope yours are okay.

Are you going to keep them Sharon? I think I'm going to have to either re-divide my tanks out to male/female dorms because I just don't have the room for more. I did a 90% waterchange on the outdoor tub and I think it had more to do with my ageing eyes - everytime i filled a bucket with the old water, about 10 or so would fill it. So there's still a good number there

I've just been down to my local aquarium and the manager said if I have any good specimens, he'd take them off my hands but I have a problem with this because I don't want them ending up in a bowl somewhere, or in an uncycled tank to wither and die (geez i'm morbid today)

As I was running so late,I had no time to even begin on thinking where to put them safely.That tank is a mixture ofgold fish too,so I have a feeling the egg dropper was the Little deformed fin Lionhead I was talking about in the other thread.As I've been working,I have no idea of whos been chasing her around. I think I will let nature take its course.When I get a chance,I'll try and keep an eye out for fry,but those guys don't miss anything,and probably didn't leave an egg.I'd love to raise a group of babies,but with all these baby Cories and Bristlenoses,I allready have 15 tanks up and running. Yes,I will leave it to fate......
Won still isn't quite a 100% after that cory eating incident-nor is Marmalade swimming right yet either,so I think I'll just stick to getting them back to normal.Why do we always feel so obligated at saving the world????I felt soooooooooooo guilty leaving those eggs in the tank with the big fish.

You sound exactly like me - I sat there looking at all these fry and thought can I even cope with their numbers? But because the eggs hatched i was in a bit of a spot so shoved them outside...

How is Marmalade doing now? I hope she's on the mend

I know what you mean about saving the world. I don't know if i mentioned it but a guy at work found a baby lorikeet and kept it in a box. I asked if I could take him to the vet so off to the vet we go. He told me everything looked ok , it just appeared as though he had a fractured wing but other than that he should heal and I was free to take him home. I ended up calling him Tyler and he was absolutely beautiful, but he didn't have any of the exuberance most young birds have. Anyhow, I went and brought a new cage and every toy I could scrape up enough money for, lots of rearing food and a cuddly blanket and set him up in the cage (it's getting easier to live without groceries i'm starting to discover) - this was 2 weeks ago. Each night I would take him out and just sit him on my lap where he would cheep up at me. This morning I found him dead on the bottom of the cage and only last night I had a strange premonition he wouldn't make it. I must've cried 10 buckets and yet I knew deep down he was never really mine - he was only on loan until he was finally set free. It always breaks my heart when this happens but does it stop us? No...

Oh how awful Jen. I always forget that alot of the beautiful birds that we pay a fortune for here in the US.,fly free in your country.It didn't even dawn on me that the Lorikeet was wild. It's so hard to mend the wild ones. My daughter and I did once.It was a baby Pigeon of all things! See what our wild birds are! Anyway,we syringe-fed him until he was able to go off on his own,which was quite a few months.By the time this "baby" left,he was a full sized pigeon,and when he was freed,he stayed around for quite a while,sitting on our fence and pooping all over the place. He was the only wild one that we had any luck with.
Hey,can you send me a Cockatoo(one of my fav's) hee-hee
Just remember that you did what you could for the little one-what a shame.
Marmalade is still floating.Her belly still feels soft,but maybe not as soft as it was.I don't know....I've been hand feeding her for the past three days twice a day,with medicated food.She doesn't look or show any other signs or symptoms,so I guess it's a positive sign. I wish she'd quit floating though... I just need her to get better quicker. I still don't know if it's eggs or bacterial.

That sounds like a bit of an improvement for marmalade I can't believe how stressful it is to watch your fish on its back, especially when it's hard to know why....

Sharon I'd love to send you a cockatoo but I just can't afford the $110,000 fine although i'm sure i'd eat better if i was thrown into jail for 10 years

That's a heck of a fine! And yes,you'd probably eat better for sure,but I doubt if they'd let you take your pets and fish with you.

Hey Jen,How are the babies doing?

Honestly Sharon - I'm not quite sure I ended up pinching this LCD torch from my mum because the only time I can look into the tub is when I get home from work and it's dark then. Also when I leave in the morning - it's fairly dark also. So I brought the torch home tonight and ended up spending a good 1/2 hour out there trying to see if I still have 30+ and I only counted 4 This torch is amazing - it gives a daylight hue through the tub and ..... well, it's fairly empty... I did find about 3 dead little bodies which I removed. When the weekend arrives, i'll get out there and do a good count (plus a waterchange) but i'm feeling a bit blah thinking i've managed to kill most of them

So i'll post back on Saturday and i'm really hoping a few have survived - after all, i got that freaking big tub for the little critters, the least they can do is survive

Aw Jen,that's a real bummer.I guess in the end though it's,good.The population is lessoned and only the strong survive.Still doesn't make things better though,does it? It's always hard to lose animals-especillay when you've barely seen them yet. Do you think it may be better bringing them indoors?

I think it'd be much better but the only problem is while I have a spare tank, I've absolutely no room or electrical outlets to run filtation ect.. I've got the heater and airstone connected to the workshop outlet because it's close by...

I'm going to try and set up a greenwater tub using the empty 25 gallons. I've got some ammonia on hand so hopefully this will turn nice and green and will act as some sort of filtration. My brother bought me 3 of those sponge filters to connect up so I have to try and rig it up using one electrical outlet and pump and try one of the splitters... this way they'll have some kind of filtration

I honestly didn't think many would survive although I'd be happy if 8 did - especially if they're all different mutts

Well I just completed a waterchange in the tub and counted 17 fry - although I had to remove about 25 dead little ones I'm not sure if the plant I purchased for the tub caused some problems, it had the smell of sewerage so I pulled it out of the pot, rinsed and repotted it. About 50 of these feral little slugs came out of the roots - so they were removed also.

Now hopefully these little guys will hang in there - they're really so small still In fact, I put about 7 eggs in there 4 days ago and suspect these make up the smaller of the group...