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brenda
So I have a black moor, and he had basically uncontrolable ich, he was in a tank with an oranda and I just treated them both. Although the oranda has shown almost NO signs of it what so ever.
Well I decided I wanted to get rid of the problem once and for all and so I decided a salt bath could be in order! Well I douced him for like 15 seconds in 2L of water 6 grams of kosher salt, since I supposed kosher means non iodized and left him in a clean 5 gal bucket while I ran to nnnnnn to get a bowl to watch him....

I come back and hes ORANGE! and dying!!
He's in the bowl now no longer swimming just meandering and floating on his side... T-T
I dunno what to do!!

http://www.goldfishinfo.com/saltquan.jpg
this is the reference i had.
brenda
No matter I suppose, he's dead now. sad.gif
froggydella
So sorry that your fish did not survive, We try to help people as fast as we can with situation's like this.

If this were to happen again though, I would strongly suggest taking the ill fish out of the tank and treating him sepertatly away from the other's.

Again, Sorry you lost him. sad.gif
JenW
I'm so sorry too and what Dells said is correct unless it's a parasite especially ich. If one fish has it there's a jolly good chance all will have it so treating them altogether in one tank with a salt level of 0.3% is the most gentle way.

How is your other fish doing? I would still salt the tank because if a fish can get ich this means it's present in your tank. So salting in increments of 0.1%, 12 hours apart x 3 times will get you to 0.3% (0.1% = 1 teaspoon of salt per gallon).

Again, I'm sorry you lost your little guy sad.gif

sandy
Sorry your fish died but it sounds like the strong concentration of salt killed him.
From what i can gather it was a solution of .6 in 2 litres which really should have only been a dip.

JenW
I think brenda did only dip him for 15 seconds Sands - but it sounds like he may have been ailing badly though and unfortunately it could have pushed him over the edge sad.gif
daryl
I am very sorry about your fish. sad.gif

I just wanted to chime in. Ich does not ALWAYS show itself as the tell-tale white bumps on the fish. Those white bumps are actually the stretched fish's skin - stretched over the adult parasite that has burrowed under the fish's skin. You are seeing the parasite in a stage of life when you can not control it. You have to wait until it is no longer in the fish to kill it.

That said, ich can exist in enormous concentrations in a tank - and the fish may not display the telltale white spots. Juvenile ich parasites are free swimming. Other parasites can encyst and exist, untouchable, in the gravel base of the tank.

Ich is opportunisitic. It will attack any fish, but typically is mostly seen when something else stresses or injures a fish. Cold water, water parameters being off, an older fish, a fish dealing with other parasites or bacteria, a fish that is stressed from a new environment, etc. are all susceptible to ich attacking. The ich may lay in wait in a tank for a long time, and, when the conditions are right, they attack.

You rae not seeing any ich at this time on your other fish. But you can be sure that there is a substantial population of them in your tank. As ling as your other fish remains healthy and happy, the ich will simply remain in the background. But if anything changes or slips, they may attack and kill again.

A fish can actually carry quite a load of ich parasites and never show the tell tale white spots.....

I strongly encourage you to do a strenuous treatment for ich - cleaning the tank, warming the water, using treatments or salt to kill the parasite. Tub to tub will also leave the majority behind, while you clean the main tank......

Devs
sad.gif I'm really sorry to hear about your Moor. Its so sad when you find them that ,and you can't help them. heartpump.gif
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