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vmlola
smile.gif Hey everyone! I need some of your input on what might be going on with my Oranda, Adolf!

Let me get the normal info listed first:

Ammonia 0
Nitrates 10
Nitrites 0
ph 7.6

Tank size 80 gal, bare bottom, running for 8 months, 2 Emperior 400, 1 Rena xP3, an airstone with pump, 25 watt uv sterilizer(from Goldfish connection)

50% water change weekly using Prime

Six fish, none new, ranging in size from 5in to 8 in

Feed Progold, bloodworms, fresh veggies, etc.

I have had Adolf for over a year now. He had grow from 2in to a little over 8 in. He eats fine, reacts to me fine, and spends his day swimming and looking for food. His problem is that he seems to be itchy most of the time. Appears to try to scratch himself on things, but there is no gravel or sharp things to scratch on. He has not loss any scales, but he will swim fast and turn his head and body sideways to scratch. He will swim into the bottom of the tank or sides looking for what appears relieve. He has no visible signs like ick, lice or anything else that the naked eye could see. He has not done bottom sitting, nor does he have ragged fins.

What I have done so far,
Treated the tank with 2 courses of Parasite Clear. No change.
Salted to .3 % for 30 days. No change
Feed Metro-Med for 20 days. No change
Bought Prazi-Pond from Goldfish connection, treated for Flukes. No change.

So, any input would be wonderful. Thanks!

daryl
Only two things come to mind for me.....

First - are you sure that your pH is a solid 7.6? It does not change? It is 7.6 before and after a water change? If you have real plants, it is 7.6 in the light and in the dark? A pH change, however "slight" ( 7.6 is really a big change from 7.7 and 7.5!) can bother fish - some more than others....

Often, when a fish has a LARGE water change to deal with, they will get a bit "flashy". The difference in the water seems to feel funny to them. Does he flash mostly after a change or is it pretty constant?

Secondly - I have been dealing with flukes and some other parasite that has defied identification for quite some time now. The tw seem to go hand in hand. The only thing that I have discovered that has worked to kill or at least stunt/slow these nasties is the Prazi Pond. Not just 2 or 3 rounds, but round after round after round after round after round. I kept Prazi going in one tank for over 6 weeks. But it worked. Those fish have not had a problem for a LOOOOONG time.

I have another fish that had Flukes and a bad injury. The flukes made the injury worse. The PRazi seemed to make him "ichy". He was "cleared" of flukes, but just yesterday, I noticed "chattering" and a little flashing. Sure enough, a scoping revealed those ritzzle-fritzing flukes AGAIN. He is back in the Prazi. I still have NEVER found anything that does even half as good a job as the PraziPond powder - it works are far more than just flukes, too. But sometimes it takes great patience and consistancy and repeated treatments to really get rid of those nasties. This fish will now be on Prazi for the next month I think. I hate flukes.

Perhaps I am totally wrong, but that would be my guess if I had to guess. Flukes have a way of escaping a UV unit - while they are on a fish. The UV keeps the population low to near zero. Some fish are more bothered by them - others not so. The ones that do not have them may not get them for the flukes get zapped by the UV when free swimming as when they travel from fish to fish. A fish that is healthy can carry a small load of flukes practically all its life and never have much noticiable problems - at least until there is something that changes.....

Any way you could get a microscope to use?
Devs
unsure.gif Has he only just recently started this? I admit that there have been a few times where I've done pretty big water changes and have seen this behavior in my fish.As Carol said though ,flukes may be involved.If your keeping the water pristene,and all the fish are in good health and no stress,that does tend to be just enough sometimes to keep the Parasites from getting out of control.
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