Ok some of you guys add a touch of salt, perhaps a tenth or two of a percent. This would lower the freezing point by how much? I dont know, but wont the water in the kois body freeze, even if the pond remains a liquid, isnt the freezing point on a celluar level just below 0, I think it was -2 centigrade. A totally fresh pond would freeze with the fish trapped in the ice, but a slightly salty pond would have frozen fish floating all over the surface since ice is lighter than water. I wonder how many of you have thought to get a big heater for the pond instead?