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essexnick


Hi,
I posted a similar prob the other week but have been away. My Black moor has been in the hosp tank for 3 weeks now. It is pooing alot but its anus seems to be extended out its body. Where its bum is it seems to have a brown lump sticking out. Im really unsure what this is but she seems to be acting normally.
Pls help
ps i got photos but not sure how to attatch them
LaurieP
Essexnick, not sure what other thread you posted about or in. Please link it.

Also we are going to need more information from you. There is a red box up top that we need the answers to all the questions. This will help us to better know what is going on. Thanks.
essexnick
Was posted in this section about 2 weeks ago it may be moved now. Sorry not sure how to link it.

The tank she was in is
Test Results for the Following:
Ammonia Level? 0
Nitrite Level? 0
Nitrate level? 10
Ph Level, (If possible,KH and GH and chloramines)? 7.6
Ph Level out of the Tap?
Tank size (How many Gals) and How long has it been running? 35
What is the name and size of the filter/s? juwel?
How often do you change the water and how much? 1/3-1/2 1nce a week
How many fish in the tank and their size? 3 aprox 5in each
What kind of water additives or conditioners? aquasafe
Any medications added to the tank? no
Add any new fish to the tank? no
What do you feed your fish? flake, pellet greens
Any unusual findings on the fish such as "grains of salt", no
bloody streaks, frayed fins or fungus? no
Any unusual behavior like staying
at the bottom, not eating, ect..? She seemed to have swim bladder before this problem but she's fine now


The Hospital tank is 9 gals and the levels are the same as above.

Thanks
essexnick
Hi the last thread is listed as 'sick moor' and has been moved to the diagnosis and discussion board. Really sorry not sure how to link it .

nichjake
Just copy the url and paste it here
sarahelizabeth.d
i have the same problem. it is like a pinkish nub sticking out of her anus. i can't get a pic tho... she is well and acts fine.
essexnick
http://www.kokosgoldfish.invisionzone.com/...showtopic=44405

Its no longer red tho its a brownish gray colour.
LaurieP
Ok, your water looks good but what exactly is her problem??? Still not clear on that.

essexnick
She has what looks like an extended anus. Instead of it being inside her it looks like its sticking out of her. Its about the 1/2 a cm long. She can poo and is actually producing more po than normal. she doesnt scratch it and seems fine otherwise.
sarahelizabeth.d
i again have the same thing on my bubbles. i was just wondering if it was ok. she is fine and eats, plays and poos. i was just concerned that her insides were falling out...
essexnick
Thats exactly what im thinking. Is bubbles pooing more than usual?
Lady_D
Could these fish be females and reabsorbing eggs?
sarahelizabeth.d
no and as a matter of fact her poos have been bad. long a stringy and whiteish. But the past couple of times it is normal again.
i just added some parasite clear but her poo was good before that. thep\c is for another couple of fish in the tank
LaurieP
Could you post a picture?

It could be a prolasped rectum. If this is the case there isn't much you can do, just take care of the fish until it becomes life threatening.
Making sure to feed alot of peas to keep the fish from being constipated is step one.
essexnick
what is a prolasped rectum?. I have been feeding greens but she is definately not constipated.
LaurieP
Basically what a prolapsed rectum is the "colon" coming out of the fish. In laymans terms.....her guts coming out her butt. Not a good thing.

What type of greens are you feeding? Peas are a natural laxative, while other greens may not be. Why I said a diet full of peas. Her stool should be as soft as you can get it, incase this is a prolapse of her rectum.
essexnick
I think it may be a prolapsed rectum. Ive been looking and it looks like that. What can i do other than feed peas. Will it get better or is it just a waiting game. Im v upset as this is the first one that may die in over 4 years.
LaurieP
If it is infact a prolapsed rectum there isn't anything you can do other than soft foods to avoid constipation.
Eventually it may become infected and cause the fish to get deathly sick.
It may live with it years..........it is hard to say, or it could cause severe problems quickly.

At this point you are doing all you can. I have never heard of this condition fixing itself without vet assistance. But even then it is a touch and go healing. And I don't believe that the surgery to fix it can be done on fish.
sarahelizabeth.d
my poor bubbles
when i look at her it is so small that she has to be turned just right to see it..
so far so good... and she loves peas...
essexnick
Should i keep her in a q/t?. If nothing can really cure her is it better to keep her in q/t or should i return her to the main tank?
sarahelizabeth.d
i have her in the main tank and she is great...
very happy
LaurieP
Yes I dont' see why she can't go back in the main tank. Good luck with her.
I am going to move your thread into the reg. sick section. If something becomes urgent let us know and we can move it back.
essexnick
Ok thanks for all the help. Ill let u all know if anything happens.
Let me know about bubbles
sarahelizabeth.d
hey essexnick check out this site you will have to look around but it has a great pic of the problem.. but a really big problem.....i guess theis is what could happen.....ouch

http://www.fishpalace.org/Disease.html#TB
essexnick
Ive looked on the site but can find it. What is it listed under?

sorry im probably just being stupid

Nick
sarahelizabeth.d
sorry i have looked so many places
got it
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/diseas.../anal_port.html
ouch
essexnick
not good!!!!!!!!!!!

If it got realy bad i dont think i could let her suffer for too long!
LaurieP
How are things going?
sarahelizabeth.d
my bubbles is great... nothing out of the ordinary...
she just eats lots of greens now....
her fave is broc...
essexnick
she's eating fine. She seems a bit hyper all the time but that may just be me looking for something to be wrong.
Do you think she's in pain
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