Hi
i have a 10 gallon tank (dimensions are 20''l x 10''w x 12''h, and we have a filter) and yesterday my boyfriend and i picked out our fish, i picked out a smaller calico oranda and he got a larger black moor. When we got home we realized that his moor seems to have a cataract over one eye and we thought nothing of it since he seems to be getting around fine. However, today hes constantly following my oranda around and at first i thought it was cute kinda like a seeing eye fish but now he seems a little agressive, he sometimes pecks at my oranda's fins and runs right over it. the moor's body is a little over 1.5 inches long and the oranda is about or a little over an inch. i thought they'd be ok in a 10 gallon tank b/c where we bought them there were quite a few fish in a tank that wasnt as big as mine. and i have no decorations but im thinking of getting a cave (a smooth one with no sharp edges) for my oranda to hide in,and a bubble wall for oxygen, is this a good idea? or should i just try to seperate the fish, they even came from the same tank at the pet store, what could be causeing this behavior. i have no clue what to do, i want to keep them both but i dont want the oranda to get hurt.
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HI and welcome to the site. There is plenty of information here to help you with your new hobby.
I will first let you know that unfortunetly you are overstocked. Fancy gf need 10 gal of water each. They produce a lot of waste that needs to be controled by a biological cycle going as well as lots of water to dilute the waste.
Water quality is the single best thing for gf. It can heal them or kill them if it is bad.
While the fish stores overstock, they aren't too worried about losing fish, they are in the business to sell so a few dead every morning doesn't bother them. That is why the tanks are over crowded, the more they have the more they sell.
With that said, If you have any more questions on the 10 gal per gf guidelines we can go into further with that.
To answer your question there is 2 possiblities. One being territorial, being overstocked gf can get aggressive with each other. So giving them the appropriate space can cut down on this.
Second is breeding behavior. Males will chase females sometimes to the point of killing them if left to continue.
My recommendations is to read as much as you can on stocking your tank, upgrading if you can and possibly seperating them if it continues.
Welcome again!!
I will first let you know that unfortunetly you are overstocked. Fancy gf need 10 gal of water each. They produce a lot of waste that needs to be controled by a biological cycle going as well as lots of water to dilute the waste.
Water quality is the single best thing for gf. It can heal them or kill them if it is bad.
While the fish stores overstock, they aren't too worried about losing fish, they are in the business to sell so a few dead every morning doesn't bother them. That is why the tanks are over crowded, the more they have the more they sell.
With that said, If you have any more questions on the 10 gal per gf guidelines we can go into further with that.
To answer your question there is 2 possiblities. One being territorial, being overstocked gf can get aggressive with each other. So giving them the appropriate space can cut down on this.
Second is breeding behavior. Males will chase females sometimes to the point of killing them if left to continue.
My recommendations is to read as much as you can on stocking your tank, upgrading if you can and possibly seperating them if it continues.
Welcome again!!
LaurieP is right. i've had the same experience, my lionhead was always chasing my moor At one point my Lionhead even had my moors anal fins in his mouth. that was the scary part and i was so worried that he was going to hurt my moor, but after i upgraded all this behaviour stopped. because they have enough room to get away from each other if they wish to they seem to be the best of friends now.
i did do research but my family has had 2 fancy gold fish in one tank before and performed frequent water changes and every thing was fine (about 2 times a week). However we decided to just seperate the 2 fish and now the moor has his own tank, we didnt have enough room for a 20 gal in one area so we have them in seperate rooms. i think its for the best anyway so now i can give my oranda decorations to hide behind.
thank you for all your suggestions.
thank you for all your suggestions.
I just wanted to mentioned that the cloudiness over the black moor's eye will most likely disappear in a few weeks providing the water is kept top notch. Moors often get cloudiness on their eyes if the water they are kept in is poor or sometimes they can be damaged during transport.
Keep a close eye on the water in your moor's tank and the cloudiness should disappear. If you want, you could add 1 teaspoon of salt per gallon of tank water. Use aquarium, kosher, pickling, coarse or sea salt (a salt without additives) and dissolve in tank water before adding. Salt acts as a tonic for goldfish and will aid in healing minor wounds at a 0.1% solution (which is 1 teaspoon per gallon).
Welcome to Koko's and I hope your new fish are doing well. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask
Keep a close eye on the water in your moor's tank and the cloudiness should disappear. If you want, you could add 1 teaspoon of salt per gallon of tank water. Use aquarium, kosher, pickling, coarse or sea salt (a salt without additives) and dissolve in tank water before adding. Salt acts as a tonic for goldfish and will aid in healing minor wounds at a 0.1% solution (which is 1 teaspoon per gallon).
Welcome to Koko's and I hope your new fish are doing well. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask
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