Dragonlady:
But i just checked the board, and Im sure you already figured out how to drop the temps...
but a good way to start the goldies into getting in the mood so to speak is to do a very large water change, sometimes as much as 75%.
I havent tried to add ice. instead take your tap water make sure it is very cold and dump it in, that should be all you need to help drop your temps.
the combo of lower temps, and water flow help to induce them to spawn. you might also want to try immediately feeding them.
I know i cant seem to keep mine from breeding! goodness!
email me if i can help you with anything else