Please someone help me. I'm on my way to work now, so I'll check this when I get back. I'm already running late because I've been watching my lovlies. Ok...here's some params.

My tank JUST finished cycling. (I was forced to cycle with them in the tank, long story) 55gal. 4 goldies ranging from 3-7 inches.1 pleco.
Nitrate: 15
Nitrite: 0.3
TA: 175
pH: 7.6
(All water params are normal now)

My Nitrites were seriously high and I was battling with them for 3 days until I could get them non-toxic (story behind this as well). Needless to say, Nitrite poisoning is what is bothering them. I don't know how to fix this either. I saw the red streaks at the base of the fins...thought it was hemorrhagic septicemia. I added a fungus clear (covers any fungus, dropsy, clamped fins, fin rot, streaking). The streaking has gone away on the one it was worst, and he's swimming better. Now here's the problem. (I treated my whole tank by the way, it just seemed the better thing to do). I have looked my fish up and down...I can detect nothing physically wrong with them. They are now 'gasping for air' the only way I can describe this. Jasper won't eat, he looks like he wants to, but then gives up, but the others are eating. My 3 fancies are sitting at the bottom, when they swim, they start a steady downward drop. Jasper he sits on his head at the bottom.

God, please help me you guys...I've never lost a baby I've had so long, I've only lost new additions. I'm seriously freaking out and crying. I'll check back when I get home from work. Thanks, guys.

oh, forgot to add that the tank has been salted at .2-.3% for the past week while going through this Nitrite phase.

!!!! MY fish is going through the exact same thing right now! The sitting on the bottom part atleast! I havn't really found out what is wrong, but I fed my fish some peas and such...I hope your fishies live. Best of luck.

Have you tested for ammonia? your tank isnt cycled until tha ammonia and nitrite are both at 0.
Is there any surface agitation going on to allow oxygen into the tank. what filtration are you using and have you added anything such as an aerator to help.

I forgot ammonia, yes, it went through that already. Ammonia is at 0. An aerator...I'm not familiar with what an aerator is, but I have many live plants and a 2ft bubble wand in my tank.

The filter is a top fin 60, I know, not the best, but it suffices. I'm in such a scatter brained state, I keep forgetting to mention these things.

Yes the bubblewand is the same thing. As long as the filter can turn the tank over ten times in an hour then the filter is ok.
Just keep the salt at .2% and doing little but often water changes and they should get through it ok.

What type of goldies? common or fancy and what kind of plec and how big is he?

Ok, I'm seriously late for work, but I had to check back after taking a shower. I have 3 fancies (a telescope, calico telescope, and a calico fantail I believe (I'm not sure, sad but true). 1 koi (who is the champ in this situation wondering what's going on with his swim mates), and a common pleco 5 inches(I know, not compatible) I've had him with my goldies for about 5 months, and they seem fine but I keep a constant eye on him to make sure he's not butting heads with my goldies.
Unfortunately, I can't do the water change until I get back (11p EST). Also, I did mention the medication to the water. I added that on Thursday (Happy thanksgiving...) and I haven't done a water change yet because it recommended that I leave the medication in for 4 days running filter without carbon, do a 25% water change and re-add medication if needed. Now, I was planning on doing a 33% water change tomorrow and re-adding the medication...does that sound good? Any suggestions?

Personally i think your main problem is overcrowding. The koi needs at least 250 gallons. The fancies 10 each and thats minimum and the plec at least 20 gallons.
I dont think the fungus remedy will work here myself but dont know what else you can do apart from huge water changes.

The koi is just a baby. He's only about 5-6 inches and he's going to be moved to a pond soon when it's done being dug/built, so that'll help with the overstocking situation. The fungus remedy has already helped on the red streaks, but I'm wondering if it's causing a problem. My others didn't get worse until 2 days after adding it. Has anyone else ever used a fungus remedy? It's a jungle labs product.
I got home, and they're still in the same shape, not any worse (thankfully) so, I guess that's good. I was afraid that my Jasper (who's not eating) would have passed on. I'm going to try some peas, he loves 'em. Anyone else have any suggestions? Do you guys think it's swim bladder?

I'm trying to feed my fish, and both Jasper and Katsumoto are spitting everything back out. Archie and Karashi are eating normally and greedily...but the other two...
Please, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm going to an aquatics fish store tomorrow, I really need to know what I should buy. Medigold? Maracyn? What does this sound like? Both of them aren't very active at all and refuse to eat. My water params are still normal.

Welp, it's dropsy. It took about 4-5 days for me to come to that conclusion, but now I can get the proper medication and pray that it's not too late.

Rather, I think it's septicemia which led to dropsy. I just hope it's not too late, I'm going to the pet store when it opens to see what types of medicine I should get. I'm thinking that a heavy salt solution should be a good start while I medicate the tank. All of my fish aren't looking good, so I'm thinking that they all are going to be needing medication. 2 won't eat, one is eating fine but looking bad, and the other is, well...seems perfectly healthy to be honest. I'll treat them all though. This is a lesson to be learned about dirty water. Never cycle a tank with your goldies...

Thank you Black Moorio for your support, it was really kind, and thank you Sandy for your advice/suggestions. I appreciate you trying to help me.

I went to a new fish store today. Luckily this guy had a vet license so he gave me powdered nitrofurazone. He said that my diagnosis of septicemia was correct and that over the next six days my fish should get better. Well, with exception of Katsumoto...I need to do a little work with him. I'm going to put him in a strong salt solution for the next few days. (only a few minutes each day) I'm assuming that's all I can really do, and just pray that things go well.
I feel kind of stupid posting this, as I'm not sure anyone's going to read it. But, it makes me feel better to thank those two. Once again, big thanks and big hugs!

Dont feel silly about posting and im sure theres still people who can help you here.
Good luck with the meds you have and kep us posted.

Not to intrude here but were do you live at?

If in the USA I might have some food that will help you hun

Normally,when you see fish eating and spitting out their food,it's a sign of Flukes,or some sort of Parasite.Other symptoms could include some that you've mentioned also.Are you able to get a peek of their gills to see what they look like?Are they firm & meaty red in color,,pale,very dark looking,etc?Do you keep a heater in the tank?If so what are the tank temps?Have you done another water test yet today?

Koko: I do live in the US, Florida actually. I appreciate the offer but with them not eating...

Devs: I was wondering if it was parasitic or not. I have been looking at their gills and they're in bad shape. Very pale. I'm wondering if Jasper has a beginning ulcer or is losing a scale. I'm not too sure. I found my pleco attached to him...I was so angry. I put him in a different tank. But, it's in identical places...I'll see if I can get a pic of it.

I've been dipping them in a salt solution of 1 gal water, 1/4 cup of doc welfish salt. It helped Katsumoto, he's no longer upside down, his scales aren't protruding anymore, and he's at the bottom of the tank rather than the top. He still has popeye though. Jasper's dropsy is gone as well, just those two spots (identical spots on either side of the body) that are sticking out. It appears to be white under there, but it's scale shaped...any suggestions? The entire tank is treated with nitrofurizone right now. My Nitrites are out of wack, I keep doing water changes to bring them down and I have the tank salted. Gah, I'm rambling...I'm worried still, but happier that Katsumoto isn't hanging onto a fine line of life and death.

oooh, Devs, sorry, I forgot to answer some of your questions. I check my water twice a day, I'm watching my nitrites. Some meds I put in before starting raising my ammonia and nitrites again
I do have a heater, but only for emergencies. The current temp is 72F.

I think you already know that the first step is getting your water perfect... that may mean using up a fair bit of meds but they won't work while the water is toxic.

I went through the same thing - as soon as i medicated, the cycle went to hades in a basket... no more good bacteria as it was destroyed by the meds. So I had to do 2 massive waterchanges daily to keep the ammonia and nitrites at 0 and add the meds back each time I changed the water.

It's a lot of work but without perfect water, the meds not only become ineffective, but may end up doing more harm than good as they are there to work in support of your fish's immunity to help fight off what's ailing them.

It could also be bacterial gill disease brought on by parasites which can cause the symptoms you speak of so if you can get some medigold asap, this should help some (I think this is what Koko was offering to send you )

Is there any chance you can post a pic of the spots? Have they been exposed to any new fish/plants in the last few weeks?

My fish are starting to eat today. Yay! I'm so happy. Unfortunately, everywhere I look/call, I can't find medigold. The guy who has the vet's license says he doesn't sell medigold because he doesn't approve of it. So, I've had no luck searching around central Florida. I'm thinking I might have to order online?
The spots, I looked closer, they seem more cottony than anything else I can think of. I tried my digicam, it's not working for some reason. I'm having someone check it out for me right now. I'll get pics asap though. Hopefully by tomorrow.
Now that I think of it, I got some new plants about 3 weeks ago, you think that might be it? I didn't notice any odd behavior though until the nitrites went to all crud.

I am not 100% sure, but I think the Medigold people here are referring too is only available from Goldfish Connection online, here is the link http://www.goldfishconnection.com/shop/lis....php?parentId=5

yep Jen is right, that is the only place you can get it. What the heck does your vet not approve of???? Medi-gold is great

I haven't got a clue why. He mocks all medications as well. He's not a vet, he just has a license and owns a fish store. He says he only believe in pure ingredients that won't ruin the cycle and disapproves of maracyn, etc. He says that they're under medicated and most people end up misdiagnosing and just ruin their cycles in the process. I can understand that part, but the medigold? Got no clue.

Speaking of medigold, would it help with fin/body rot? Because my Jasper has horrible rot going on. Not a fungus...jeez, all this is new to me. I've them a year with nothing really wrong and then the past week, I've seen every type of disease possible. I feel like such a bad fish mommy. All the other fishies are getting better. Katsumoto seems to have sprung back to life. Just Jasper now, hanging onto life by a thread.

I have extra Medigold, Medigold only helps with Interan problems, such as bacteria, Dropsy, popeye, and such. Yes goldfishConnection is the only place you can get it cause hes the one who makes it, and is very knowledgable about goldfish....

Hey Koko? I feel odd asking this, but would you mind sending me some of that Medigold? I noticed you said you had extra, and if you wouldn't mind, how much would it cost to send it?

Also, any suggestions on how to take care of body/fin rot from anyone?

Hi Tru,
For fin rot, a iodine swab (betadine will also work) Will do the body also but you muct be careful and not get any in the eye's, mouth or gills. Dry the spots, swab, quick blow to dry, a quick rinse and back in tank.

Do this once only!

You can also do the same with straight MG....

So he has a Vet license? Or a store buisness license? One of the reasons someone would promote rot like that is if a product works, can't sell you another fish.... We have to keep in mind thats the main buisness..... the more fish die, more fish they sell. Are there products that don't work, yes and no, it depends on what it is, what its being used for and the overall picture.

LOL, he needs a good debate with a real vet.... he should attend a wet lab with Doc J.

There's a lot of those at Koi & goldfish shows in Florida. Your sitting in the heartland of some of the finest shows and labs if your in Florida. And Tru, for future ref, Koi dealers should have some kind of medicated foods on hand. Medigold is only one of many, there's romet B, medi-koi, aqua meds.. Jungle makes some now as well too.

I did the betadine swab 2 days ago. Unfortunately, Jasper passed away last night/this morning. I was going to get some pics done of his rot, but my cam took a crap on me. I'm still stressing over Katsumoto, he doesn't have rot, he's not eating again, and is just sitting at the bottom of the tank like Jasper started out. I'm keeping a close eye on him as well, I don't want to lose another love.

Thanks, Tam, on the medicated food info, I'm checking that out tomorrow.

Well, here's the overall results, sorry for posting a few days late on it, I've been a little "bleh".

Archie: He's better, acting/eating normal
Jasper: Passed on.
Katsumoto: passed on.

Although, I think I found out the reason as to why they might have gotten sick.
I caught my roommate spraying lysol all around the living room to freshen up, and he didn't think about the fact that I took my hood covers off a few weeks back before I put my bubble wand back in. I'm thinking that the lysol got into the water, and caused them to get the septicemia. Just a guess, but that would explain as to why they got sick out of no where and this is the first time I've had such a horrible epidemic in the tank.

Truistik, I am sorry that two of your fish didn't make it... The others are doing better then? If you are still in need of Medigold, I live in the Orlando area, and could mail you some if you email me your addy at RAJ-Pecher@msn.com. ....)