RedCapMiggi
Oct 2 2005, 09:26 PM
Okay guys, i really need a lot of help on this. In California, we have a "Senior Project" which is a project us 12th graders have to do to graduate high school.
I choose to do mine on breeding my Goldfish. I now need ALL the help i can get, or else i WILL NOT graduate from high school.
So first lets start off with what I have. I have One 5 inch black moor. One 5 inch Red Cap Oranda, and one 5 inch Ryukin.
They are in a 60 gallon tank with 4 filters adding up to 740 gallons per hour of filtration. It is a well established tank and has plants in it.
I feed them soaked flakes, hikari, and these goldfish "crumbles" that they seem to like...but i can not get them to eat gel food. They just wont eat it.
I am thinking i will get another fish in there...
oh yeah, there is no heater in it and i live in souther california so the water is around 68. but fluctuates a lot.
So now i need help. Tell me how. I've read things, but i need a good step by step, please help!
RedCapMiggi
Oct 2 2005, 09:42 PM
Please guys. I really need the help of the experts here. PLEASE!!
We can do this!
Tazz Knight
Oct 3 2005, 02:40 PM
what is the purpose of your project..what are you trying to prove or unprove
yabbie
Oct 3 2005, 09:18 PM
Go to your fish shop, buy blackworms or some other high protein food such as freeze-dried bloodworms and start feeding them that.
When they're looking nice and fat and you have some with breeding stars, do a 50% waterchange and throw a lot of floaty waterplants in there or a spawning mop from the fish shop, don't let the tank get too cool and see what happens. You should see some chasing at the very least. If you can coincide the waterchange and plants with a thunderstorm, that might work better.
Even if they fail to spawn you might still be able to write up some possible reasons they didn't spawn and still pass your project.
RedCapMiggi
Oct 3 2005, 10:32 PM
QUOTE(RedCapMiggi @ Oct 2 2005, 10:42 PM)
Please guys. I really need the help of the experts here. PLEASE!!
We can do this!
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You don't have to prove or disprove anything. Its not an experiment. You just have to do something that is part of a career.
RedCapMiggi
Oct 3 2005, 10:33 PM
QUOTE(yabbie @ Oct 3 2005, 10:18 PM)
Go to your fish shop, buy blackworms or some other high protein food such as freeze-dried bloodworms and start feeding them that.
When they're looking nice and fat and you have some with breeding stars, do a 50% waterchange and throw a lot of floaty waterplants in there or a spawning mop from the fish shop, don't let the tank get too cool and see what happens. You should see some chasing at the very least. If you can coincide the waterchange and plants with a thunderstorm, that might work better.
Even if they fail to spawn you might still be able to write up some possible reasons they didn't spawn and still pass your project.
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Okay cool. What about progold?
yabbie
Oct 4 2005, 04:03 AM
Brand names tend to be non-international... so I don't know. You'll need something high in protein.
You'll also need to net off part of your tank or have a cycled tank standing by ready to keep the fry from being eaten by mum and dad.
I don't think fish breeding is a very lucrative career... especially not when goldfish are so cheap. The cost of getting one tank to spawn and grow to saleable size is so much higher than the price of any fry that make it.
Tazz Knight
Oct 4 2005, 05:22 PM
I agree with yabbie...it takes a lot to raise goldfish fry...I hope you have a great senior project
RedCapMiggi
Oct 5 2005, 09:29 AM
Yeah I know it's expensive, but it doesnt have to be so much about the career as the project.
yabbie
Oct 5 2005, 05:40 PM
So you could just breed microworms? Or brineshrimp?
RedCapMiggi
Oct 5 2005, 09:45 PM
QUOTE(yabbie @ Oct 5 2005, 06:40 PM)
So you could just breed microworms? Or brineshrimp?
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Breed brineshrimp?
yabbie
Oct 6 2005, 02:23 AM
Seamonkeys.
You can buy brineshrimp eggs at your aquarium (or toyshop) and if you can get them to adulthood and breed them, you'll have a great business selling them back to aquariums.
Tazz Knight
Oct 6 2005, 12:42 PM
how is your senoir project going?
RedCapMiggi
Oct 7 2005, 12:56 PM
Yeah, i guess i could. but i like the goldfish idea, because 1 ive always wanted to, 2, i like a good challenge.
so its going good. Right now i'm feeding them Frozen Blood Worms, Freeze Dried Blood Worms, Freeze dried Baby Shrimp, and i'm thinking about going to get some frozen krill.
d_golem
Oct 7 2005, 01:15 PM
I think breeding brine shrimp will become very helpful to u once the goldfish spawned. Goldfish fry loves baby brine shrimp and it's one of the best fry food.
JustJayde
Oct 7 2005, 02:15 PM
hah I remember those sea monkeys

they were soooooooo tiny.
My brother bought kit after kit after kit and was hysterical when they all died.
He expected them to look like the cartoon add, hair... jewels...clothes.... little house.... kids.. the works.
It's no help to this thread but I had to mention it
Tazz Knight
Oct 7 2005, 04:35 PM

@ Just Jayde
I am glad that your are doing well with the goldfish
Anic
Oct 7 2005, 08:44 PM
RedCapMiggi, just out of curiosity, are you a Sophomore or a Junior this year? I (unfortunatly) have to do my Senior Project next year. Maybe I'll do mine on something goldfish related, too. Anyway, I was just curious.
RedCapMiggi
Oct 7 2005, 11:13 PM
QUOTE(Anic @ Oct 7 2005, 08:44 PM)
RedCapMiggi, just out of curiosity, are you a Sophomore or a Junior this year? I (unfortunatly) have to do my Senior Project next year. Maybe I'll do mine on something goldfish related, too. Anyway, I was just curious.
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I'm a senior. This is for this year.
nichjake
Oct 8 2005, 05:09 AM
Where are you guys from? I feel lucky, in my area we didn't (still don't) have to do senior projects.
Anic
Oct 8 2005, 05:53 AM
nichejake, I'm from Indiana. And how are you 16 and a Senior!? Did you forget to change your profile, or something?
RedCapMiggi
Oct 8 2005, 04:31 PM
QUOTE(Anic @ Oct 8 2005, 05:53 AM)
nichejake, I'm from Indiana. And how are you 16 and a Senior!? Did you forget to change your profile, or something?
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In California, we have to do them.
No, i turned 17 two weeks ago...
Whirlwind
Oct 8 2005, 07:34 PM
Good luck on your project

I have 3-4 more years till that 0_o
Anic
Oct 9 2005, 07:58 AM
Senior Projects suck! One of my friends switched schools so she wouldn't have to do it.
Tazz Knight
Oct 9 2005, 06:01 PM
oh you can handle your senior project
RedCapMiggi
Oct 9 2005, 09:56 PM
Mine is going pretty good!
I've been feeding blood worms, frozen blood worms, and baby shrimp.
I believe two of them are egg bound, and my male has extensive breeding stars.
yes!
d_golem
Oct 11 2005, 06:09 PM
Keep us updated, miggi

I'm curious on how u go andling the spawning and such
Tazz Knight
Oct 13 2005, 03:26 PM

agrees with d_golem
dognet13
Oct 19 2005, 07:57 PM
Whats you project on. What I would do is "Which type of water is easiest for a goldfish to live in?" Just an idea.
AlteredByMyEgo
Oct 25 2005, 03:43 AM
so did your fish have any luck yet?
Anic
Oct 25 2005, 04:23 PM
Yeah, any luck? You haven't posted in awhile.
Tazz Knight
Oct 25 2005, 09:32 PM
I think we have been abandoned....

hope the experiment went well
Anic
Nov 4 2005, 04:43 PM
I think he ditched us! No, probably just busy with his fish. I hope it went well, also.
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