My new baby has ICK. Ok I have rasied the salinity to .03% like I was told. But I have another goldie my Bubbies in the tank with her. Can I treat her with him in there?? If I take him out do I risk speading her disease to the other tank?? What should I do? I have a rid ICK med should I use it? Can I use it with Bubbies in there PLEASE I am freaking I don't want to loose them I and I kno how fast it kills!!!

Hi there.

Firstly, relax. Salt can and will destroy ich very quickly. Stick to your guns and keep the salinity up there. You can also raise the temp to about 80 degrees to speed up their life cycle. This makes elimnation faster by about a day or two.


Yes, you can and should treat all the fish that were in the tank when the ich broke out. Remember, leave the salt in for at least 3-5 days after you last saw any ich. I would go a full week after just in case.



Good luck and keep us posted.

Paul

Ok so keep the salt at the 3%. Do I still do the weekly wanter changes? Or do I need to wait till he is better??

Actually, it would help if you increased the waterchanges to everyday or every other day. Not much. Just do a good thorough gravel vac each time. Gravel vac until 25% of the water is drained frm the tank. then when you go to refill it, you have to make sure that the salinity of the new water is the same as in the tank. to do this, just dose the new water at 2 3/4 level teaspoons of aquarium salt. Then its ready to be poured into the tank.

Rememberr that salt cannot evaporate nor be filtered out. so, DO NOT add salt to the water if your just topping off the tank from evaporation. Only dose the water that your pouring into the tank after a waterchange/gravel vac.

The increased gravel vacs will remove the ich cycsts that drop off of the fish before they can hatch and release swarmers to re-infect your fish.


Good luck!

Paul

o wow i didn't kno all that!! wow thank u sooo much!!! iam going to do that then.
but she seemed really weak today and she was glued to tyhe top of the tank like she couldn't breath. I am afraid I may loose her today!!!!

Hey toothless,
I read u sugjested that a girl nuke her tank and re cycle it due to a paracite infection, do u sujest I do that as well once i rid this Ink. Becasue my bubbles seems great he coloring is fine and she is perfect w no signs of INK but he ahs had it before and it almost did him in. Do i need to take any of there prcautions??

I read somewhere that a chick got a parasite infection in her tank and toothless recomended once the fish was well to nuck the tank and start a new cycle. Do u think that goes for ICK as well, should I completely clean everything out and start a new? or is this just for paracites?

Everytime ive dealt with ICK ive never torn down the tank and restarted, enless all of my fish died. Which happened once, but last time I dealt with ick, I treated 14 days with salt, to make sure all the ick was dead, and everything was fine. I personally would not tear it down and re-start if the fish survived. Just make sure you treat for the proper time and do a good gravel vac to suck up any dead parasites and eggs in the gravel.

ok them my Q is the fish with ICK has passed away, now I have another guy in there he was healthy from the beginning and is still healthy I have removed him from the tank, and quarentined him I plan on cleaning out the ICK tank today should I treat him to with the salt or just clean and watch??

Ok quick question that is sorta important!! Ok my baby Oranda passed away today from ICK she was sick when I bought her and she just got worse and worse until she died, but stupied me didn't kno u had to quarentie new fishies...so yah I added her w my bubble eyed. Ok he shows no signs of ICk he is healthy and happy and eatting fine, I have removed and isolated him from the ifected tank now I will clean out today and vac the rocks. do I still need to treat him w the salt? or do I just clean and add him back and watch???

Defnitely dont nuke your tank. The only reason I suggested that was because she had tried many different parasite meds and nothing worked. This is a problem we face sometimes. Her problem is most likely either costia or chilodonella that is resistant to acriflavin, salt and some other meds. That is also why I suggested she try quick cure. Quick cure is awesome but should be used as one of the last resorts. It is VERY stressful on fish.


Just keep doing what your doing and the ich will be totally gone in no time. After you start reducing the salinity, if you every see any flashing but no ich, we can go from there. Sometimes there are more than one nasty abound....


Paul

So even tho bubbles is fine and doesn't have ICK u sugjest I keep up the 3% solinity? for the 7 days? I completly vac the rocks got everything I could and did a 70% water change. So keep up the salt??

Yes. You have to keep the salt going for at least 5 days after the last time you saw any ich whatsoever. A week is even better.

Just treat him in the tank he was in with salt as per the indtructions I linked you to in your other post. Remember, at least 5 days must lapse with NO signs of ich before you start reducing the salinity.

Whatever you do, stop transferrign him from tank to tank. this is a sure fire way to stress a fish out and stress allows parasites to invade very easily....

Thank u sooo much for all of ur help, i feel much better. i was afraid to do nething. i was like what if i treat him and he doesn't need it or what if i don't and he does LOL!! U have made me feel much much better!!! OK one more q tho how long would u wait before u put another one in there with him?

THANK U SOOOO MUCH!! for all of ur help!!! U r awsome!!!

BuriedAlive,


I answered your other post asking this same thing and merged it with your main thread.


I am going to merge this one too.


It really helps if you keep all your info and questions regarding ich in the same thread.

Paul

I think it should be noted that just because you do not see any ich, it does not mean that it is not there. Ich can and does infect the gills. Have you examined the gills for ich? They can also lay dormant in the gravel for several days or more.


Trust me, you dont wat to have another outbreak, so, be sure to continue with salting.....

O WOW I didn't kno that ok how do u check the gills?? So keep up the 3% salt for the 7 days? and 25-50% water chages daily? is that right??

NEVERMIND U told me already DUHH!!!

But how do u check a fishes gills and what do u look for??

If your fish does not show any outward sign of respiratory distress, there should be no reason for examining the gills. Checking a fish's gills can be a traumatic and stressful thing for a goldfish. Causing stress in your goldfish can incite further infestation or allow bacterial infections to invade.

So, just relax, sit back and know that salting your tank will kill every last ich swarmer in the tank. Remember, there has never been a recorded event of salt resistant ich.

Salt and wait.......