I have my snail tank, a 10 gallon all set up and nice...
but i was at the store the other day and fell in love with a little baby calico.(half inch body!)..
could i add him to the snail tank or do the snails count into how much i can stock it?
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That would depend on how big the snail is and how much filtration is on the tank and also how big the goldfish is....but as seeing that your little one isnt that big of a goldfish the rest would be a factor 
Awww... sounds adorable! I say get rid of the snails!
(Okay, maybe that's a little harsh...)
(Okay, maybe that's a little harsh...)
hahaha.....
mom said to get rid of the snails too! I
my snails tho.... and this little guy.... i hate tough decisions!!!!
Theres 6 adult canas in there....10 gallon tank, aquaclear30 + fluval 1 for filration....
mom said to get rid of the snails too! I
my snails tho.... and this little guy.... i hate tough decisions!!!!Theres 6 adult canas in there....10 gallon tank, aquaclear30 + fluval 1 for filration....
sounds like you're already at your max load there! 
*pouts* i wanted that lil guy!
Actually, you even though you have 4 adult canas in there, you might possibly be able to house a small goldfish in tere for a few months or more. At least until it got about 5-6 inches max. Then, of course, it would need a larger tank anyway.
I am basing my opinion on the fact that you have double the filtration that is recommended for goldfish. The aqua-clear 30 pumps 150 gph and the fluval 1 pumps at 52 gph. That brings your total filtration to 20X'x an hour. With heavy filtration like that, I would imagine that stocking levels could easily be doubled.
But, and I stress this, MANY large, regular water changes will be needed to keep the KH of the water at an optimal level and the nitrAtes low. With that much bio-filtration going on, you can bet that a lot of the KH gets used up and the nitrAtes will rise very quickly. Not to mention that you are talking about large snails. They too are known for using up all available kH in the water to assimilate their shells.
Hmmm, I wonder if that little guy is still there............
Good luck!
I am basing my opinion on the fact that you have double the filtration that is recommended for goldfish. The aqua-clear 30 pumps 150 gph and the fluval 1 pumps at 52 gph. That brings your total filtration to 20X'x an hour. With heavy filtration like that, I would imagine that stocking levels could easily be doubled.
But, and I stress this, MANY large, regular water changes will be needed to keep the KH of the water at an optimal level and the nitrAtes low. With that much bio-filtration going on, you can bet that a lot of the KH gets used up and the nitrAtes will rise very quickly. Not to mention that you are talking about large snails. They too are known for using up all available kH in the water to assimilate their shells.
Hmmm, I wonder if that little guy is still there............
Good luck!
i dont know if that lil guys there, but I saw a baby at walmart i want to rescue sooooo bad!!!!!!!!
could he be carrying any diseases that could catch to the snails? or would it be safe to put him in there?
could he be carrying any diseases that could catch to the snails? or would it be safe to put him in there?
As far as I've been able to research, snails cannot get infected with the normal run-of-the-mill parasites we commonly see on goldfish. But, they can and often do bring parasites in with them (not infecting them) from local fish shops.
If you are considering rescuing a fish, take into account the fact that this is a goldfish in a tank that most certainly has some kind of parasite or another. This means that you will HAVE to treat it as though it does and at the very least treat it with a 0.3% salt solution for 3-4 weeks. Aaaand, in my opinion, salt and praziquantel should both be used regardless of what the fish looks or acts like. I always assume that flukes are there too.
Of course, you have the fluval on that snail tank right? Well, you could add that filter to a small temp bin of 5 gallons max and have a great quarentine tank. Got any spare tanks or rubbermaid bins laying around?
Once the newbie passes quarentine, the filter and the fish can be added to the cana tank.
Whattya think?
If you are considering rescuing a fish, take into account the fact that this is a goldfish in a tank that most certainly has some kind of parasite or another. This means that you will HAVE to treat it as though it does and at the very least treat it with a 0.3% salt solution for 3-4 weeks. Aaaand, in my opinion, salt and praziquantel should both be used regardless of what the fish looks or acts like. I always assume that flukes are there too.
Of course, you have the fluval on that snail tank right? Well, you could add that filter to a small temp bin of 5 gallons max and have a great quarentine tank. Got any spare tanks or rubbermaid bins laying around?
Once the newbie passes quarentine, the filter and the fish can be added to the cana tank.
Whattya think?
hmmmm....I have some big kritter keepers....maybe 3-4 gallons.....im sure i can dig up a rubbermaid....we have stacks of diffenrent sized ones in the basement..... 
Im really thinking about going out for this guy....I couldnt see any obvious things wrong, he just looked sad and sickly, no obvious gaping cuts or worms sticking out....and he was so darn cute!
Ive had snails bring in diseases to my fish when they lived together...namely ick.... *shakes fish* blasted snail! but it cant work the other way around? i guess it wouldnt matter if I QT him, though right?
praziquantel whats this?!?
Im really thinking about going out for this guy....I couldnt see any obvious things wrong, he just looked sad and sickly, no obvious gaping cuts or worms sticking out....and he was so darn cute!
Ive had snails bring in diseases to my fish when they lived together...namely ick.... *shakes fish* blasted snail! but it cant work the other way around? i guess it wouldnt matter if I QT him, though right?
praziquantel whats this?!?
Well, ys, you should still quatentine. If you bring ich or something else into your snail tank, then your snails will be considered to be "carriers". Then, you would have to keep them in a separate tank while you treated the newbie for whatever. Of course, then you wouldn't be able to house the snails with anything until they themselves have gone through a quarentine period. Problems, problems. Quarentine is ALWAYS the best route.
Praziquantel is also known as droncit. It isused as a dewormer in livestock and pets. It can and will wreak havoc on tapworms and flukes. It is also VERY extrememly safe to use with all fish (almost impossible to OD and bio-filter safe). Inverts, snails and the like should not be subjected to prazi though. It's rather expensive but if used correctly, ten grams lasts for quit some time. I get mine from pondrx.com. Ten grams (treats a total of 1,000 gallons) and is like 30-40 bucks. I, and many others out there, will not ever introduce a new fish without first treating with praziquantel and salt. Together, you have a treatment thats will kill of 95% of all parasites.
Praziquantel is also known as droncit. It isused as a dewormer in livestock and pets. It can and will wreak havoc on tapworms and flukes. It is also VERY extrememly safe to use with all fish (almost impossible to OD and bio-filter safe). Inverts, snails and the like should not be subjected to prazi though. It's rather expensive but if used correctly, ten grams lasts for quit some time. I get mine from pondrx.com. Ten grams (treats a total of 1,000 gallons) and is like 30-40 bucks. I, and many others out there, will not ever introduce a new fish without first treating with praziquantel and salt. Together, you have a treatment thats will kill of 95% of all parasites.
hmmmm.....i think im gonna pass on this guy...there will be more baby fish out there....and i dont have the $$ right now...darn UV filter... 
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