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kit2004
I just read on Seachems' web site that prime can test false for ammonia readings, has anyone seen this? I just bought a bottle of prime and may return it being I am not having any problems with my test results with the stress coat, am I confused or what? I use the dropper method for my tests, from aquarium pharm, any suggestions?? thanks
LaurieP
I have not found this to be true with my readings. I use Prime and Aquarium Pharms test kits.
WHo puts out this site you refer to???
Hmm maybe someone else can voice in on this question.
kit2004
hi laurie,
I found it on www.seachem.com
under products, then they have a faq section, its in there, is Aquarium Pharm considered a nessler method? am confused at that as well, its states in there too that similiar products that detoxify can give false readings, I was using ammo-lock quite some time ago and it was prolonging the nitrogen cycle, when I stopped using it my test results were great! with the ammo-lock I was getting false test results, am I paranoid?? unsure.gif
I do hope someone can help clear me up on this, thanks
LaurieP
Sorry I can't clear up everything but I can tell you many members got false readings with ammo-lock. And had the same problems as you.

I am not sure what the nessler method is???? I would not think you are paranoid. Are you having a problem still???
DataGuru
AP makes two different ammonia tests. If yours has 1 bottle it's the nessler reagent. If it's 2 bottle it's a salicylate reagent.

Stresscoat uses Sodium Thiosulfate which only detoxes chlorine and chloramine. It also contains plant sap (aloe vera) which I don't like. How would you like to breath water with plant sap in it? Either the 1 bottle or two bottle ammonia tests will work with Stresscoat.

Prime uses sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate, it detoxes chlorine, chloramine, ammonia, nitrIte and nitrAte. You need the 2 bottle salicylate ammonia test when using prime.
kit2004
thank you dataguru, my aquarium pharm test for ammonia is the two bottle kind, so then this one is ok with Prime? I also have the same for the Nitrates, so then am I understanding correctly then?
Also, I understand that Prime is highly concentrated and that I need just 25 drops for a ten gallon, I am hoping it saves me money in the long run, cause right now I am using 2 tsps of Stress Coat to help clear up a little frayed fins, the fins look so much better. Why wouldn't the stores know about Stress Coat, the guy I spoke to whos a saltwater specialist said to me that the Stress Coat dilutes in water and that there basically all the same(the water conditioners) but that Prime is a very good product and so is Noviquel, think I spelled it right, he says people that maintain tanks use that product. sorry for this being so long...thanks for the help

Laurie, I am not having any more problems with my tank, its been doing great! I have just read a lot about Prime and thought I would give it a try but then got confused with some information I read.

thanks for the replys and clearing up some confusion, have to pick up a medicine dropper today for Prime biggrin.gif
I may be nutty, but just having other critters and giving them the best pays off in the long run and I want to do that with my fish as well, some folks would think I sound corny, but my fish as well as my other critters are like my babies ...thanks a bunch
DataGuru
Yep. smile.gif
I use a syringe to measure the prime. 1 cc or ml per 10 gallons.
Water conditioner aren't all the same. Some are similar. He probably hasn't read up on it.

I hear ya. It' sour responsibility to take the best care of them we can. and the more you know the better you are at doing just that. smile.gif
kit2004
a syringe, an excellent idea, better than a dropper I should have some around here from when the kids were little, if not I will have to get one, thanks dataguru, also much easier than counting out 25 drops!
this helps me out tremendously biggrin.gif
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