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maniacholic
I use a peeler for fruits/veggies. cause i'm a guy i dont do that nail's thing lol.GIF
bichon2001
Hey, what ever works as long as our guys get fed right??? biggrin.gif
motorx1
how u get this gel stuff
bichon2001
This is a recipe from Dataguru:Easy Gel Food Recipe


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Makes about 5 ounces of gel food.

Ingredients:

Ingredients
1 Pack Unflavored Gelatine
1 Tbsp Water (bottled, filtered/dechlorinated)
2 Sardines (about 1/4 of a 3.75 ounce can)
1 jar Babyfood peas (no sugar or salt added)
1 Tab Lactobacillus Acidophilus optional**

Place the Acidophilus tab in 1 T water to soak. You may need to use a spoon to crush it so it dissolves totally.

Finely chop sardines and mix with babyfood peas in a microwave container and bring to a boil.

Stir in gelatine and stir until dissolved.

After mixture has cooled down to where it's warm, stir in Acidophilus mixture and stir until well mixed.

Pour into a flat dish. Gel should be about 1/4" thick.

Refrigerate until set.

Cut into squares. I leave out no more than a week's worth of gel in a plastic zipper bag and store in the refrigerator. The rest I freeze between layers of plastic wrap. When frozen, I store in the freezer in ziplock bags (each holding about a week of food).

Good luck, my fish died today but they loved this stuff.
maniacholic
QUOTE(motorx1 @ Feb 10 2005, 10:31 PM)
how u get this gel stuff
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the basics are with grinded ingredients, water and knox or other types of unflavored gelatin powder, and also you can add synthesized stuff like vitamins
maniacholic
QUOTE(maniacholic @ Oct 23 2004, 11:53 AM)
2 part soy
1 part peas
3 part spinach
2 part canned carrots
2-1 part V8 (not SPLASH)

i made around like 1 third of a gallon.
I hope this isnt overdose LoL.
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it's been a long~~~~~ time since i started using this recipe have'nt had SBD since! biggrin.gif <_<
femmeartist51
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Hi, my fish George and I are new here. Was very interested in a recipe, easy to find ingredients and healthy for my new fish. He caught my attention at the pet store, as I walked by his tank, he kept on coming up to the window opening his mouth. I put my finger to to glass and he came closer, as if to eat my finger. I had to have him. Almost had an argument with hubby over him. He is a large Oranda, large wren, looks like a persian cat almost. Orange, black. He has a blue spot right behind his wren. Hopefully that is nothing. Just wanted to say hi there.
femmeartist51
Wynkin
Hi femmeartist51,
This is truly the place to learn all about goldies and their care. And there are wonderful people here.

A good place to post when you are new is in the "new members" section or the general discussion section. I would not have seen this post if I wasn't intrigued by your user name!

The main food that I feed my fish is Progold from the Goldfish Connection. Their url is www.goldfishconnection.com

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femmeartist51
Love your name Wynkin,
Thanks for the reply and the info on the web site for Progold. Wonder if the store in our town carries it? I was wondering about cucumbers for the Oranda's. We had lots of baby gold fish in our koi pond, this started the need for a huge tank, and then of course George. I was wondering if the homemade food is better for these fish. Thanks again, I will also post in the new member group.
Fishmerised
Ok, call me crazy, wacko.gif it's 1am and I've just finished making my first gel food recipe.

I only made a small batch, about a cup, to see how it turns out. This is what I used:

1/2 cup prepared baby rice cereal
1/2 can pureed baby apples
4 tablespoons of mashed peas & carrots
1/2 can sardines
2 heaped teaspoons of crushed garlic (too much, should have only used 1 tsp)
2 heaped teaspoons of probiotic food supplement. It's a green powder made from organic veges that have been predigested by lactoacidopholous and other yummy bacteria.
1 sachet of gel dissolved in 1 cup of warm water - only added about half a cup to my mixture.

I didn't add any fish food because they eat it anyway without any problems.

One thing I'm not sure of is the consistency of the stuff before it goes all jelly - mine is like a thick porridge - is this right?
bichon2001
Can I give this to the fish listed below???


Makes about 5 ounces of gel food.

Ingredients:

Ingredients
1 Pack Unflavored Gelatine
1 Tbsp Water (bottled, filtered/dechlorinated)
2 Sardines (about 1/4 of a 3.75 ounce can)
1 jar Babyfood peas (no sugar or salt added)
1 Tab Lactobacillus Acidophilus optional**

Place the Acidophilus tab in 1 T water to soak. You may need to use a spoon to crush it so it dissolves totally.

Finely chop sardines and mix with babyfood peas in a microwave container and bring to a boil.

Stir in gelatine and stir until dissolved.

After mixture has cooled down to where it's warm, stir in Acidophilus mixture and stir until well mixed.

Pour into a flat dish. Gel should be about 1/4" thick.

Refrigerate until set.

Cut into squares. I leave out no more than a week's worth of gel in a plastic zipper bag and store in the refrigerator. The rest I freeze between layers of plastic wrap. When frozen, I store in the freezer in ziplock bags (each holding about a week of food).
bichon2001
I know have 2 mollys, 6 zebra tetras, 6 cardinal tetras, 4 cory cats and 1 swordtail
Fishmerised
I gave my guys their first homemade food this morning (recipe on previous page), I just made it out of whatever I had lying around but it turned out Ok.

I made it specifically for Silvery who is not well but ended up giving it to all my fish, they devoured it so I think homemade food will become a habit.
Fishmerised
Blender free recipe. No mess - No fuss.

Easy-Peezy, check out your babyfood aisle next time your in the supermarket. There are some great short cuts to be found. I used the following :-

1 small jar peas, potato & broccoli
1 small jar carrots & rice
1/2 small can sardines (mushed with fork)
small serve of frozen brine shrimp

Stir it all together with a spoon - makes a large mug full, about 350 gms. Dissolve 1 sachet of gellatine in 100ml (1/2 cup) of hot water.

Allow gellatine solution to cool to room temperature and stir into mixture. Refrigerate overnight. I pour mine into the flat lid of a pyrex casserole dish. When it has set (in the morning) criss-cross with a knife into small squares and freeze. It will be easy to break the squares off with a knife when frozen. (Someone else had this idea, it works)
Lozbug
thanks annette, i readthis yesterday and was a supermarket today and picked up a can of mixed veg baby food (mum was a littel concered when we were there and i suddenly went "oh! i need baby food!!" laugh.gif )

so am gonna mix:

baby food
pro gold
sprinula flakes
veg gelatin

*fingers crossed* they like it - they were not too impressed last year when i tried gel food wink.gif
Fishmerised
OMGoodness, I can just imagine the look on your mum's face. laugh.gif

edit: I was laughing so much I forgot to pay attention to your recipe. Sounds yummy to me!
Lozbug
Yeh it was a look off "baby what!?! huh.gif "

it is setting right now - it smells terrible!!!! i only made a really small batch, as last time they hated it! the dogs ate the rest of the baby food! laugh.gif

yabbie
I've been wanting to try this so tonight, in the aftermath of kids making their own onegiri, I grabbed the leftover tuna, rice and seaweed and made some.

I've put in:
Rice
Seaweed
Baby spinach
Peas
Sweet potato
Cherry tomatoes
Tuna
Egg

Reading those analysises (analysi?) in this thread previously, there is probably not enough protein and too much salt with the seaweed but my fish are bad bad fish who neglect all forms of whole foods and prefer to gnaw on plants and commercial food so maybe this high veggie content will be good for a change... if they eat it. I'll let you know.

I don't think gelatine packages are the same size all over the world. Mine come in huge and huge.
Fishmerised
Hi Yabbie, I'm in Sydney and I use a NZ brand called Davis. It comes in a 50g box about half the size of a Gravox box and contains 5 sachets of gelatine.

I either got mine at Coles or IGA, can't remember.
yabbie
That's the brand I used. They seem huge...

The big fish love the gel food. Tho they're not used to diving down to the bottom to eat. I put a blob in the yabbie tank and one hauled it off to his cave straight away. The whole cut, freeze and snap thing is more like a cut, freeze and smack with a hammer thing.
Fishmerised
Yeah, I know what you mean about that hammer bit. My first batch was only about 5mm deep and it broke easily, but the bigger batch is hard to break.

I'm thinking of trying those small ice cube trays.
Vinson
Other than these "Gel Food", which can have great results on Goldfish, can any pellet foods or other ordinary foods capable of being "Great" to Goldfish?
maniacholic
try omega one they have the least fillers in there food, I'm not so sure about pro-gold but they seem good, the only problem is, is that I can't seem to find the complete ingredient list for pro-gold and the ash content is not listed.
TamtheLittleBlackMoor
I've noticed a few of you use spiritulina (sp?) flakes in your gels and I'd like to use that, where would you find it?
maniacholic
QUOTE(TamtheLittleBlackMoor @ Jul 8 2005, 09:14 PM)
I've noticed a few of you use spiritulina (sp?) flakes in your gels and I'd like to use that, where would you find it?
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try to order it from goldfishconnection.com
JustJayde
heheheh I made it again after the first batch didn't work and it is AWESOME. I think I made enough for him for about a year............ which is good because I think it burned my blender out hahaha crap now I need to buy another blender.
BUT
he loves the new gel food.

fishy_go_swim
I do a gel food out of mostly fresh veggies and such. Everyone seems to being doing quite well now. Wild huckle berries and thimble berries inhance colour fabulously in goldies and Terta-type fish. My Angel has turned a brilliant blue again from them.
LuvMuhFred
Ok here is my first attempt at gel food:

1/4 cup Broccoli (frozen)
1/4 cup Peas (frozen)
1/4 cup Green Beans (frozen)
1/4 cup fresh carrot (washed and peeled)
1/4 cup fresh pumpkin (peeled)
1/4 cup fresh Cauliflower
1/4 cup fresh Zuccini (peeled)
1/4 cup Banana
1/2 a small orange (no skin, pith or pips)
1 can (120g) babyfood...pureed apple, pear and apricot combo
1 can (95g) Tuna in springwater (drained)
1 clove fresh garlic


Place garlic, orange and banana in blender.Do not blend yet.
Place frozen vegies in bowl with 1 tablespoon tank water and microwave till defrosted.Add to blender.

Place raw fresh vegies in bowl with tablespoon tank water and microwave till tender. Add to blender.
Blend on high for few minutes till a mushy puree consistency.

(After blending makes aprox 2 cups of puree)

set aside in large bowl

Gelatine:
125 mils hot tank or dechlorinated water
Add 3 teaspoons geletine powder. Wisk with fork till disolved.
Add 1 cup tank or dechlorinated water, stir to mix.

Add gelatine mixture to bowl of food mixture
Stir well to blend.

Pour into rectanglar pan aprox 30cmx20cm
Chill in fridge to set (aprox 3-4 hours)


It set great and the goldies went nuts for it.
Im not sure about the nutritional breakdown at all....any coments would be appreciated. I am willing to experiment and change acordingly.

My feeding plan is to feed gell in the evening evening
morning they get either bloodworms, spirulina, goldfish flakes or tubifex...whatever i feel like and usually alternating days.so its something diferent each day
Fast totally one day a week and peas only next day
Once a week a tiny tiny bit of orange and a pea and once a month some banana as treats.

Edited due to typos
tinker
Sorry for my ignorance, but what are sprinula flakes?? We want to try this, but have never heard of this ingredient?
LuvMuhFred
sprinula is an algae and fish love it
You can buy it in flake form, Tetrafin is one brand (the one I buy) that has it.
If I feed the flakes alone I soak them first before feeding.
If you make gel food you can add them to it aswell.
nichjake
QUOTE
I'm thinking of trying those small ice cube trays.


That just gave me a great idea. At Easter time the stores around my house sell molds for jello jiggler jelly beans. Those little things would be the perfect size for gel food for my fish...as soon as easter rolls around I'm going to get one and try making the gel food. Being in a dorm with a freezer about the size of a shoebox I don't have much room for a lot of gel food, my roomate wouldn't appreciate me taking up the whole freezer.

Also I was wondering, can you give betas the same gel food that you give goldies or are their needs a lot different? My roommate just got a beta so I'm now going to learn all about them.
Krystalized
QUOTE(fantailfan @ Oct 2 2003, 11:48 PM)



OOOH, and fruit too.  i can never get that to sink in the tank, no matter how long i soak it.
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I bought a feeder clip that sticks to the inside of the tank at Pet Smart - It is great b/c I can't ever get my home foods to sink either.....
bulma75
I definitely need to learn how to make the gel food - the bloodworms float at the top and hes used to seeing his food sink and I dont want him sucking extra oxygen with them...

::adds plain jello to list of things to get::

If you dont have a blender, you can just crush the food yourself, right?

I probably wont have much more than shrimp, works, peas and some flake food..Im a poor college student so I cant buy a bunch of veggies XD unless I find some veggies that are the same price as the peas..

and did I see tuna???? Cannibals! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif lol

edit: what types of fruits can you feed comets? can you do bananas/oranges? LOL those I can get for free >_>
stephanied6
So as I can see from reading the posts here ,making you own fish food is better? Gel food you call it , it must be good for the digestive system too, do they get constipated with that food?
alistairw
of my 3 orandas, my redcap is a really fussy eater and will not touch blood worms or brine shrimp. i made a gel food from this site and he absolutely loves it. i used half a cup of frozen peas and half a cup of frozen spinach. half a can of tuna in springwater and added blood worms and brine shrimp too. i used 2 packs of plain gelatine.
thanks for the tip. snowflake is in gastro heaven.
alistairw
Newbi
Hi Everyone!

It looks like I'm about 3 years behind on this discussion, but I have a good excuse... I only just set up a gold fish tank about 3 weeks ago and just joined this forum last week.

I got started here because I was frantic about one of my new fish. "P" was my favorite and I had quickly become attached. Unfortunately, she didn't even last 2 full days from the time she became ill, but in the process I found out just how much I didn't, and probably still don't, know about goldfish.

LaurieP filled me in about gel foods so I started looking over the information on this sight. The idea of feeding gel foods seemed to make a lot of sense, so I decided to give it a try myself. But instead of following directions, I had to put my own spin on it and come up with a couple of my own recipes. I have nothing to compare it to, but I think it turned out quite well. At least my fish gave it their seal of approval. Hungry.gif

I know you already have plenty of good recipes, but if anyone is interested in testing mine, I have posted them below. You will probably notice that I specified using a glass pan and a plastic knife. This is because I realized "after the fact" that if I had avoided allowing the food to come in contact with any metal, it could have also been shared with my daughter's hermit crabs. From what I have read, metal is very toxic to Hermies. Therefore, their food can't come in contact with metal of any kind.

Does anyone know... Would it be OK for me to use this gel food as their primary diet?


Goldfish Veggies Gel Food Recipe
¼ cup shrimp (cooked)
½ cup store-bought fish food (pre-soaked)
¼ cup tomato paste
¼ cup frozen chopped spinach
¾ cup baby food peas (no additives)
¼ cup baby food carrots (no additives)

OR

Goldfish Fruit & Veggies Gel Food Recipe
¼ cup shrimp (cooked)
½ cup store-bought fish food (pre-soaked)
¼ cup cantaloupe
½ cup baby food peas (no additives)
¼ cup baby food broccoli or green beans (no additives)
¼ cup baby food yellow squash (no additives)
¼ cup baby food apricots (no additives)


Liquefy all ingredients in a blender or food processor.

Dissolve 3 packets of unflavored gelatin in 3/4 cup of warm bottled spring water, microwave until clear, and stir into the liquefied food mix.

Pour into an oblong, glass baking dish and chill. Once set, cut into bite sized pieces with plastic knife.

Separate small portions into ice cube trays and freeze. The food cubes can then be placed into an airtight container and returned to the freezer for long-term storage. Individual cubes can be removed from the freezer as needed. Thawed cubes should be refrigerated.
brummiefishes
I don't know how to cook stuff, as i'm only 11. Is there anything easier I could try?
Peaceflower
I'm not sure if I just did it incorrectly, but a while back (two years?) I made a gel food and the koi disliked it. The goldfish didn't even go near it. I used a recipe from some site, can't remember what it was, but anyway, are some fish just not interested in the gel food?

And can somebody post a picture of some gel food to see if I just messed up?
Katalyst
QUOTE(Peaceflower @ Oct 26 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]592045[/snapback]

I'm not sure if I just did it incorrectly, but a while back (two years?) I made a gel food and the koi disliked it. The goldfish didn't even go near it. I used a recipe from some site, can't remember what it was, but anyway, are some fish just not interested in the gel food?

And can somebody post a picture of some gel food to see if I just messed up?


Picture baby food and water in the blender. I just made some for the first time and I'm not sure if its right or not. All I know for sure is one thing...It smells foul! Whoa...I'll be amazed if they eat it, then again they are tossing around a piece of orange in their tank at the moment and completely shredding it!
Johnny Five
Alright. Encouraged by everyone's efforts, I've decided to make my own gel food treats. I don't intend on trying to feed them exclusively, perhaps just for one meal a day, or a week. I used ingredients around our house, based on what other people have suggested, and what stuff we're having trouble eating before it gets old. smile.gif


Here's what I'm trying:

2 cups frozen chopped red/yellow/green bell peppers
1 cup frozen peas (It's a given!)
1 cup frozen shrimp with tails and shells
1 tablespoon paprika
1 ground Centrum vitamin
2 tablespoons minced garlic
3/4 can tuna in spring water

4 packets (or sachets, if you prefer) of unsweetened Knox gelatine.


The frozen veggies were thawed under a hot water tap for a few seconds, then drained, to separate them and make them easier to blend.

The frozen shrimp were tossed in first to give them a chance to thaw. (didn't want shrimp goo on my hands from defrosting under water)

The tuna and garlic were squeezed clean of any juices before being tossed in.

The Centrum was powdered via goggles + hammer + stone cutting board. 8)



Then the usual "Blend until liquid," and stirring in the gelatine with a touch of hot water.



I'll update when I see how they like it!
Johnny Five
Update #1:

Cats will scour the house for the source of that absolutely delicious smell.

Sisters will hold their nose in shock and horror. biggrin.gif

With the proportions posted above, a 13x9 is waaaay too much space in a pan. 9x9" or more likely 8x8" would probably be about right for a thin enough layer.

Make it somewhere that can be aired out thoroughly right afterwards...
Johnny Five
Last update.

I brought it out and sister screamed in horror. biggrin.gif But it no longer smelled very much at all.

It had gelled, and was easily sliceable, with the consistency of fake dog doo.


And sliced and froze most of it, wrapping it first in saran wrap, then taping it up in a paper towel with skull and crossbones.



The fish were confused by a sinking food at first (I stirred, did not blend in, the gelatine), but once they figured out what was on the bottom of the tank they ate until I was sincerely worried they would explode.

I didn't realize that it would expand as much as it did, once it hit the water.

But they seemed to love it, and excreted a larger volume bowel-movement wise in the next few hours than I'd seen any of them excrete before.

The oranda didn't flip over and none of them acted stressed.

They're up and jockeying for more food in their usual feeding location again, though not quite as frantically as they do when they're thoroughly hungry in the mornings.


Anyway. That's been my experience with home-made gel food, and I'll probably continue using it occasionally.. as a fish treat.. or a cat treat! =^o.o^=
koko
Ill say one thing, since I feed my fish mostly gel food , I don't have flip over problems at all anymore, my fish on pellet foods would get it and it was horrible to watch them to this.....

Gel food is great cause you can add just about anything to it, and using baby food for the liquid part of the food is the best so that you don't have to add water to it.... biggrin.gif
Johnny Five
Thankfully I haven't had SBD/flip over problems yet, knock on wood.

The one thing about baby food and not adding water would be my laziness.. I took about half a cup of water and heated it to boiling, then stirred in the gelatine fairly quickly.

Otherwise, I would have had to stir and heat the entire thing on a stovetop range, right? To get the gelatine to set?

Though it's nice that most of the foods I used were left-overs and cast offs. Thus rendering my grand total for this experiment to $2.00 or so for a box of gelatine. biggrin.gif

I'm pondering making a veggies-only batch, next time I feel the urge to create. Poor goldfish, at my culinary mercy.. mwa ha ha.
Lynnie59
QUOTE(koko @ Feb 1 2004, 02:27 PM) [snapback]97512[/snapback]

Well I gave it a shot.

Progold crushed
Krill
spirulina
Tuna
Garlic


Oh and I just had to taste it and EWW! rofl3.gif



[color=#3333FF]Hi Koko, just wondering how Garlic is safe for GF? did you use crushed garlic or powder? and why did you add this to the mix? out of curiosity? I'm surprised by the variety of foods GF are eating and loving! wow...

VERY INTERESTING! Happy Thanksgiving! Lynn
Johnny Five
I can't say Koko's personal reasons for adding garlic, but I added garlic based on a friend that works at a pet store's recommendation.. he said that garlic oil is often added to water or food to increase fish's appetite.
koko
Increases appetite and also helps the immune system just like you and I, garlic is a good food for your system to fight of bugs biggrin.gif
dmhosea
At the risk of asking a silly question...

There was a gel food recipe where 1/2 can of tuna was used. Do you want the tuna in water or oil? Thanks! idont.gif
small_ranchu
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Do you want the tuna in water or oil?


I would use the one w/ water.
vmlola
smile.gif Yes, Tuna in water!
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