[Graham]

QUESTION: Is clove bud oil the same thing as Clove oil? That's what they had at Whole foods (I can't remember the brand... I returned it since my frog died without it, but I will look at the store if it helps) - It was pure clove bud oil. Thanks.

[deedeesue]

Mine says "clove bud" oil. I think I remember the clerk telling me it was stronger or more pure or something... I just don't remember. I do know that it worked.

[Mariocrazy's Mum]

Well I just wanted to say how grateful I was for this information on Monday when I had to help our poor fish. It was almost like having someone here helping me through.
It's not something anyone wants to deal with, but when you need it for the sake of your fish, when there is no other choice than this or letting them suffer ..... well, I for one am grateful this has been pinned.
I hated doing it and literally had to force myself, but I used the clove oil and whiskey and it was all over in seconds like Deedeesue says, and very peaceful for the fish.

[cutmores]

:( Thank you so much for taking the time to describe the best way to put a much loved friend out of their misery. We have 2 goldfish and a week ago one of them becam very unwell we have been treating her with everything the pet shops sujested but all in vain, 4 days ago her right eye ballooned up she was not eating a bumping into everything but most of the time lay at the bottom.

With your advice my husband and I bought some clove oil tonight and with a llot of tears put her out of her misery.

Once agaon thank you for making a painfull process easier.

Many thanks

Leanne :( :( :(

[Fishmerised]

Sorry to hear of your loss Leanne.

[Mariocrazy's Mum]

Oh Leanne,
I can really empathise ... I'm so very sorry :hug

[sandy]

Such sadness :(
Maybe this should be a memorial page as well.

[kscoleman]

I have used clove oil as an anesthetic to remove a tumor before on the wen of my goldfish. Clove oil is very humane as a euthanasia product as well. (I do not use vodka). First put the fish to be euthanized in a smaller container containing tank water from the original tank so as to not stress the fish. Add an air stone to the smaller container to keep the water moving. Next I mix the clove oil with a small amount of bucket water in a glass jar and shake it constantly for 3-5 minutes to break the oil up. Add the clove oil mixture slowly (you might notice that the fish swims away from it initially but mine never seemed stressed by it). Slowly the fish will slow down and become unconscious. I usually leave them in the water for an hour after I think they are dead and then remove them in a clean butter container with no water and watch them for another hour before disposing of them. The clove oil is cheap and can be purchased at a cake supply store in a very small quantity (.125 oz.) I use about 1/2 the clove oil in a 2 gallon size bucket for euthanasia. If your fish is taking too long to get sleepy (more than 20 min.) you can add the rest of the oil after you shake it up with some of the bucket water. As a precaution, I always have 2 little jars of clove oil on hand. No one wants our little finny friends to suffer when we are sure that there is nothing else we can do for them. Every creature we keep becomes our responsibility to keep healthy for as long as possible.

[BuriedAlive55]

You know sometimes people can make me soo sick!!! NO OFFENCE INTENTED!! But I think it is really sad when ppl r like o it"s easier for me to do this....Its like oo there fish soo it doesn"t matter. But I see it like this do u think they would feel the same way if there cat or dog or fuzzy cuddly anamial needed to be put to sleep, if they would flush it down the toliet or freeze it to death because it was "easier" for them. Just becasue a fish isn't like a dog or something doesn"t mean it doesn"t desever to die with dignaty. I kno when my guys r sick I am just as upset as if one of my cats were sick and i would do everything in my pwer to save it just like neother pet.
I am soo glad u posted this becasue there r some kind ppl out there, like me who wouldn't have kno the best way to do this, and in best i mean best for the fish not for me!!! I have watched my dog die infront of me and yah its tuff< but I felt he knew he was loved and cared for be4 he shut his eyes and drifed off the his enternal slumber......no one deserves to die like that!!!

:heart THANK YOU!!! GOD BLESS ALL YOU WHO ARE KIND ENOUGH TO DO WHATS BEST FOR UR FISHIE FREINDS!!! :heart

[Marx]

Flushing is a relative easy way but horrible for a fish. Why make it suffer even more? Then you should let it die in it's tank, in peace, and not stressed and hurt by flushing! :(

If I have to kill a fish I just smash it. Sounds very strange but I take a big flat stone and just completely distroy the fish in a second. It's flat after the first blow and it's head and body are gone so it must be dead.

[BuriedAlive55]

gosh ur violent!! lol j/t u r alot braver than we that sounds sooo bad!!! at least u r thinking of the fish tho!! Its quick!! At least there are some good mommies and daddies out there!!!

[Tamianth]

What I do want to add in here is that yes, some brands of Clove oil aka Oil of Clove are stronger then others.

I have also noted that there's a bit of error in its employ. When mixing the Oil of Clove, it should be shaken in a baggie with some of the water to be used until it turns white, emmulsifying it is the correct way to proceed. Then it can be added in gradually. I have noted that some folks useing the oil of clove have complained that it was horrible with the fish thrashing and fighting it. If mixed well and added in a little bit at a time, this should relax the fish and not cause such a horrible scene!

Its the more humane way to deal, I agree! :D

[Nicole_05]

You know, there is another option - take it to a vet to get put down!

Exotic vets will do this for about $50, where it is put to sleep e.t.c

I think this is the best way to do it. Yeah it costs money, but its nicer for the fish!

[Myaj]

I use clove oil all the time for doing dental work on my puffers, and I want to really put emphasis on the point that you do NOT need to mix it with whiskey or vodka or anything, that's just silly.

As previous posters said, shake the clove oil with some water in a small container, baggie, whatever, then add it to the container holding the fish. Within a few seconds the fish will go belly up. I've done it in the past just by adding a few drops to the water and it works, but takes longer. But there is no need for people to be messing with alcohol, especially considering the average goldie owner is someone under the legal drinking age!

One thing to keep in mind though, the oil will stick to the sides and bottom of the container you shake it in and have the fish in, so make sure to either throw it out or wash it with lots of soap and hot water. I've made the nearly deadly (for one of my puffers) mistake of not doing so and giving him a double or triple dose of the clove oil.. it took him a long time to wake up from that one.

[Dan-Boy]

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If I have to kill a fish I just smash it. Sounds very strange but I take a big flat stone and just completely distroy the fish in a second. It's flat after the first blow and it's head and body are gone so it must be dead.

I Totally agree with Marx on this one, i just had to euthanize one of my friends comets..it was a younger fish and very ill :( .. I found it hard, but as soon as id done it i realised it was one of the most humain ways of going about it.

RIP Elwood

Dan

[Fishmerised]

I agree that a good strong blow with a blunt instrument, or quickly decapitating with a sharp knife are humane methods of euthanisia. (sounds a bit like a crime scene doesn't it?)

I don't have the stomach for that type of thing, although I would probably do it if there were no other way available. I have used the clove oil method several times and it's equally as humane and a lot less gruesome.

[Blue]

Thanks for the info i have had to euthanise two of my fish in the past and was led to believe freezing was a kind way to let them go I think it will be the anaestetic way for me from now on.I feel guilty now tht i may have caused my fish to suffer

:cry1

This post has been edited by Blue: 26 May 2006 - 07:36 AM

[tomk]

ive had to do it toa fish which had a hugeeee tumor on his underbelly. I put him in a 2 gallon bucket and poured quarter bottle of Soda water the fish guy said thats a humane way for it to go peacefully :) it did go peacefully didnt seem to strugle or freak out to much :(

[fantail109]

I cannot bear the thought of having to kill a fish I prefer to let the disease do it's work, because it might have a chance to live.

[invertedsilver]

Yes, they eventualy die if the illness is let run its corse.
However, you must think of the quality of life.
If the animal is in pain without relife it is often times simply more humane to kill a fish.
Death with dignity, so to speak
It is an act of love if carried out in sincerity.